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Donald Trump has suggested large numbers of Palestinians should leave Gaza to “just clean out” the whole strip, after ordering the US military to restart shipments of 2,000lb bombs to Israel.

The US president said he wanted Gaza residents to move to neighbouring nations, and that they could be displaced “temporarily or could be long-term”, after a phone call with Jordan’s King Abdullah on Saturday.

“I said to him: I’d love you to take on more because I’m looking at the whole Gaza Strip right now and it’s a mess, it’s a real mess. I’d like him to take people,” Trump said, when asked about the call.

He also suggested Egypt as a destination for Gaza residents, and said he would raise the issue with President Abdel Fatah al-Sisi on Sunday.

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[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Yeah, no what led to 13 million (not 6 million) former DNC voters staying home was:

  1. Being lied to & gaslit about Biden's condition.
  2. Kamala hiding from interviews where she might get asked tough questions.
  3. Kamala sending out Mark Cuban to tell everyone how much she loved big corporations.
  4. Kamala claiming she couldn't think of anything she'd do different than Biden, other than having a Republican in her cabinet... while parading around with Liz Cheney & praising Dick Cheney.
  5. Spending 2 billion on her campaign, giving a lot of it to right-wing networks for advertising despite them overwhelmingly supporting Trump & to people like Oprah & Al Sharpton to pretend that they were giving fair interviews.
  6. Attacking other progressive candidates, like when she endorsed & paid for the ads to go after Jill Stein.
[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

So which of those is worth letting Trump get elected over?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

2020 total votes for Biden 81,283,501

2024 total votes for Harris 75,017,613

So I was actually over, the real difference was 6.27 Million.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I said DNC voters, not Biden voters. Semantics though. The point is that "she makes me feel joyful" wasn't enough for people to stomach genocide & neocons.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"I don't want many many more women and children to burn to death trapped under rubble while their families watch" should have been more than enough for people to stomach another Harris administration.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world -4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Democrat: "Trump is killing more of you than Biden isn't he?"

Palestinian: "No, there is a ceasefire now. We are safer than we were under Biden at the moment. We hope that Trump doesn't help kill 70,000 of us like Biden did."

Democrat: "No I said he's killing more! You must be one of those Russian Palestinian Nazis!"

Palestinian: "Are you okay? Do you need a doctor?"

Democrat: "FU Palestinians! I hope he kills way more!"

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Source 1

Source 2

Source 3

But yeah keep talking out your ass about how "safe" people are as a result of the ceasefire from before Trump even entered office.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world -5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I never said that. You're projecting again. 70,000 Palestinians dead under "I'm a proud Zionist" Biden, multiple vetoes by the Biden admin to continue the war, countless statements by Biden subhumanizing Palestinians.

Democrats: "22 Lebanese dead under Trump! That is way more than the 70,000 Palestinians & 2,700 Lebanese killed under Biden!"

[–] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Acting like Trump is easing up the genocide is fucking delusional.

"Trump is the reason for the ceasefire!!"

Are you intellectually dishonest or just stupid? The ceasefire that has been being planned for months, with literally 0 involvement from Trump, because he literally had 0 authority until like a week ago? Holy fuck.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world -4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

https://www.vox.com/politics/395338/trump-credit-gaza-ceasefire-witkoff

"However, there indeed seems to be widespread agreement among diplomats and officials involved that Trump-related factors were quite important in finally spurring the deal to come together — though there are some dueling narratives about exactly why."

If trump said to raise minimum wage, you'd be screaming that we should lower it. Go ahead & lose another election or two by denying facts. Convince yourself that Biden is young & dynamic behind the scenes like the establishment told you to.

[–] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah bro, because hating Trump means I want to gargle Biden's balls. You're a waste of time.

But, for the sake of others reading this:

Trump said that if hostages weren't released, there would be hell to pay in the middle-east. In other words, he applied pressure to HAMAS- but not, you know, the genociders.

Additionally, if you click on the source noting Trump's incoming envoy's vague "involvement", you will note that he had no direct involvement in the negotiations. 🤔

Edit: I take it back, tentatively. There was a second reference in the following sentence that elaborated on the Trump admin's involvement. Interesting. Okay. So it seems that they did pressure Israel to agree to a ceasefire.

We'll see how long that lasts, considering the last ceasefire lasted 6 days and all.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I've got to give you tons of credit. Besides having to get towards the bottom of your comment to see your correction, you still did correct yourself. If Democrats could do more of that they might start winning elections again.