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Do you? Also do you what are the actual issues on fresh water? Do you actually think cooling of some data center it's actually relevant? Because I really, data on hand, think it's not. It's just part of the dogma.
Stop trying to eat vegetables that need watering out of areas without a lot of rain, much better approach if you care about that. Eat what people on your area ate a few centuries ago if you want to be water sustainable.
Are you serious? Do you not know how they cool data centers?
https://e360.yale.edu/features/artificial-intelligence-climate-energy-emissions
https://www.forbes.com/sites/cindygordon/2024/02/25/ai-is-accelerating-the-loss-of-our-scarcest-natural-resource-water/
https://cee.illinois.edu/news/AIs-Challenging-Waters
That's nothing compared with intensive irrigation.
Having a diet proper to your region has a massively bigger impact on water than some cooling.
Also not every place on earth have fresh water issues. Some places have it some are pretty ok. Not using water in a place where it's plenty does nothing for people in a place where there is scarcity of fresh water.
I shall know as my country is pretty dry. Supercomputers, as the one used for our national AI, had had not visible impact on water supply.
You read all three of those links in four minutes?
Also, irrigation creates food, which people need to survive, while AI creates nothing that people need to survive, so that's a terrible comparison.
I'm already familiarized on industrial and computer usage of water. As I said, very little impact.
Not all food is needed to survive. Any vegan would probably give a better argument on this than me. But choice of food it's important. And choosing one food over another it's not a matter of survival but a matter of joy, a tertiary necessity.
Not to sound as a boomer, but if this is such a big worry for you better action may be stop eating avocados in a place where avocados don't naturally grow.
As I said, I live in a pretty dry place, where water cuts because of scarcity are common. Our very few super computers have not an impact on it. And supercomputers on china certainly are 100% irrelevant to our water scarcity issue.
I don't know why you keep bringing up luxuries like avocados. I don't remember the last time I ate an avocado, or a banana, or any exotic fruit for that matter.
I somehow feel like you won't listen to LLM criticism from me either, so it's a disingenuous argument.
Because it's the typical exotic fruit.
If you really don't eat anything that it's not native to your land good for you, you are one in a million.
What I mean is that the environment argument for being against AI doesn't really hold. It's just an excuse to justify the dogma.
Except AI centers are much much more impactful than any single decision a single person can make. Demanding perfection before assessing legitimacy of a complaint is also an excuse to justify dogma.