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[–] immutable@lemm.ee 105 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

The republicans are bringing back fascism but they are at least doing awful things their constituents want.

I disagree with these things, but they deliver on their stupid backwards promises.

I’ve voted for the democrats for my entire adult life, the very first vote I cast was for John Kerry.

Here’s the thing though. Are you a liberal, you wonder why the party is hated, have you ever seen Last Week Tonight?

Jon Oliver gets on tv every week and talks about some horrible problem that started with Reagan or Nixon and has just been going strong ever since. There are so many of these. And which ones can I look at and go “well the democrats sure did fix X when they finally had the levers of power”

I can’t think of a single thing. The most important project they’ve undertaken was the ACA, and I don’t know if entrenching health insurance companies permanently and legally into the fabric of our nation is all that much to celebrate.

Do they do some good things from time to time, sure. You can point to a policy here or there that are nice. But it’s a party of not-even-half-measures.

Can we have single payer? No How about a public option? No What can you do? Romneycare… great

Can we have immigration reform? No What can you do? DACA and that’ll be rescinded the moment we lose power.

Can we reign in the banking sector? Nah

Can we close Guantanamo? Too difficult

Can we enshrine the right to abortion in law? No, but we will ask justices to pinky swear… oh they just removed it, nevermind

Can we do anything to help the common man? Let me check with the donors, nah they don’t like that, but if you like some tweets about how trump is bad, I’ve got those for you.

A party that refuses to use the power you give it is not much use.

And before you type up your essay about how Ackshually! There was only one weekend in 2009 when they could have passed any kind of legislation at all. Fucking stuff it. Then they should have sat there all goddamn weekend and passed bill after bill fixing this shit box nation. Their lack of any kind of foresight and planning and doing anything but building a better and better donation collection machine has led us to fascism.

They can collect a billion goddamn dollars but have to text me to see if I can give them just $27 more dollars before they can pass a bill. We need a new party to represent the people.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago

This is really well thought out and written, and the most popular comment on this post.

Please consider adding links at the bottom for some movements we can get behind to achieve this goal. The time for a new candidate isn't when Biden suddenly wants to drop out and fuck us over, the time is now.

[–] tootoughtoremember@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Can we please resurrect FDR, we need a newer deal.

[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 13 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Sure. But the cost of the incantation is another great depression.

[–] Oyml77@lemmy.today 1 points 17 minutes ago

I'm gonna be depressed for the next 4 years.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 1 points 19 minutes ago

gestures broadly at the insane protectionist shit Trump et al are doing and the effects it’s bound to have

…so when do we get FDR Mk. 2 again?

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 5 points 4 hours ago

It's working already!

[–] xapr@lemmy.sdf.org 38 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I can’t think of a single thing. The most important project they’ve undertaken was the ACA, and I don’t know if entrenching health insurance companies permanently and legally into the fabric of our nation is all that much to celebrate.

Yes, and don't forget that the ACA was modeled after "Romneycare" that Mitt Romney had implemented in MA, which in turn was modeled after a plan from the Heritage foundation. In other words, the ACA was essentially a Republican/conservative plan. The main reason Republicans hate is that it was Obama who implemented it nationwide.

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 14 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Single payer was killed by Lieberman, Hillary Clinton actually pushed for it. When it became clear they didn't have the votes in the Senate they tacked to an idea implemented by Romney after some Republicans hinted they would support it - none did.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 points 54 minutes ago

Yet another case of Democrats being Charlie Brown kicking a football held by Republicans

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago

Always the victims and never responsible.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca -1 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

“well the democrats sure did fix X when they finally had the levers of power

Dems only had "the levers of power" for 4 months out of like 40 years, when they weren't stymied and blockades. That's a big to-do list for so short a time.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 points 53 minutes ago

If a party can’t have power for more than 4 months in 40 years they’re a terrible party and we need a new one.

[–] Uruanna@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Hey nice, you found evidence that it's not a recent trend at all for Democrats to fail elections because they can't be bothered to even talk about anything left enough. 40 years it is.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago

Clinton era. It's not been great but the Democrats haven't even tried. The Republicans were out there talking about goals while the Democrats only ever offered tweaks. Nobody is going to get excited over "I'll keep the status quo!"

If they had spent the last 20 years actually advocating for progressivism and unions then they'd be winning more trifectas.

[–] SoJB@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 hours ago

Imagine being this much of a brainwashed bootlicker