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[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 33 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

-- and they both punch left; exactly as conservatives like to do.

[–] u_die_for_elmer@lemm.ee -5 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

I consider tankies to be on the right end of the socialist spectrum, so when I say it I'm punching right. They're still comrades even if they are miss guided by state-capitalist governments. Cheers

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 hours ago

If you're one of those people who just considers "tankie" to be a synonym for "Marxist-leninist" then I suppose I agree, but I think the term is used too nebulously to meaningfully place on the political spectrum.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 14 points 17 hours ago

I think if you're comparing "degrees" of left vs right, at that point you're missing the forest for the trees. Ultimately, Anarchists and Marxists disagree on strategy and end goal, but both oppose Capitalism and Imperialism. At that point, there really isn't a "more" or "less" left, there's just differences in analysis and what must be done to get from A to B, as well as what B itself is.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 9 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I love it when people call a transitional economy state capitalist because it betrays a lack of understanding of actually existing capitalism and the role the state plays in it.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Because the Chinese state has fiat monetary sovereignty, it doesn’t function in the capitalist mode. It has no need to make a profit because it has infinite money[1]. It doesn’t need to extract surplus value from workers to satisfy investors, and it doesn’t even need to break even. The logic of capitalism doesn’t apply.

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