That comment shows such an infantile understanding of democracy. Having a single party simply means that Cuba decided on the approach how to do things, which is communism. There are lots of different approaches you can take towards achieving the goals within that scope.

Elections with one party have exact same purpose as elections with multiple parties. The citizens select candidates based on their ideas and proposals. The main difference in a multiparty system is that people still haven't figured out what the right way to run the economy is, and each time a different party gets elected they pull things in a different direction. This is why it's practically impossible to do any large scale projects in the west.

[–] if_you_can_keep_it@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The main difference in a multiparty system is that people still haven’t figured out what the right way to run the economy is, and each time a different party gets elected they pull things in a different direction

If the party dictates "the right way to run the economy" as you say, then doesn't that blunt people's ability to reform the direction of their leader's policies because of the framework enforced by the party?

I'm not arguing that Western democracy provides superior remedies to public disatisfaction or that socialism is not the correct path for prosperity but, if the argument is about allowing people to meaningfully oppose the policies of their elected representatives, then, in a one party system, changing those policies also requires reforming the ideology of the party, which is an additional barrier. Multi-party systems are by no means perfect but at least they provide some alternative path where an outside party can be formed with radically different ideas that can challenge the larger parties and try to pick off support.

And, yes, there is always the threat of smaller parties being squashed using political/financial power, but that, to me, seems like more a product of corruption than an inherent aspect of a democratic system. Not to mention, the same could be done to factions within a party trying to facilitate similar reforms, no?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The only principle is that the economy should be publicly owned and work in the interests of the majority. I think that's a pretty reasonable framework to start with.

I really don't see what multiple parties actually add in practice. You can handle all the disagreements and arguments within a single party. The argument that a single party approach somehow restricts development isn't really supported by any real world evidence I'm aware of.

[–] if_you_can_keep_it@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The only principle is that the economy should be publicly owned and work in the interests of the majority.

I think it's reasonable to argue that the almost every democratic party has this principle. Even those that argue for unfettered capitalism can see that as working in the interest of the majority and the only way the economy can be truly "publicly owned". You can argue that they are wrong but that doesn't mean they don't believe they are following those principles just as faithfully.

If the single party's ideology is so broad that it basically encompasses "don't be evil" then I'm not sure I even understand the distinction between having one party and having a "partiless" state (which would effectively make factions within the party defacto parties in and of themselves).

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago

I think it’s reasonable to argue that the almost every democratic party has this principle.

Then the question is why multiple parties are necessary?

You can argue that they are wrong but that doesn’t mean they don’t believe they are following those principles just as faithfully.

We have concrete real world evidence backed by theory that this is in fact a fallacious idea.

If the single party’s ideology is so broad that it basically encompasses “don’t be evil” then I’m not sure I even understand the distinction between having one party and having a “partiless” state (which would effectively make factions within the party defacto parties in and of themselves).

The ideology, once again, is that the means of production should be publicly owned. This is not nearly as broad as what you wrote here.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So if they wanted a different approach, how would voting express that?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Go read up on Deng reforms in China which introduced aspects of capitalism into the system. It's worth noting that nothing equivalent would be possible in a western style democracy. It's absolutely unthinkable for any western country to integrate aspects of Marxism into the system.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Bob's Red Mill is owned by its employees. Providing shares as part of compensation is fairly common. Does that not qualify as integrating aspects of Marxism (workers owning the means of production), albeit implemented in a different way?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago

It would really help for you to actually learn the basics of what Marxism is.