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Fediverse vs Disinformation

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Pointing out, debunking, and spreading awareness about state- and company-sponsored astroturfing on Lemmy and elsewhere. This includes social media manipulation, propaganda, and disinformation campaigns, among others.

Propaganda and disinformation are a big problem on the internet, and the Fediverse is no exception.

What's the difference between misinformation and disinformation? The inadvertent spread of false information is misinformation. Disinformation is the intentional spread of falsehoods.

By equipping yourself with knowledge of current disinformation campaigns by state actors, corporations and their cheerleaders, you will be better able to identify, report and (hopefully) remove content matching known disinformation campaigns.


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  1. No disinformation
  2. Posts must be relevant to the topic of astroturfing, propaganda and/or disinformation

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@ashton1593@lemmy.sdf.org is spreading a disinfo campaign trying to rebrand horrible ideas as "not nazi." I don't know where else to warn people about this. We are pushing for an instance ban, but the admin at SDF tends to be slow to reach.

Edit: Look at the modlog. I beg of any instance admin that sees the ban and removal reasons alone, including a ban reason of "tranny" , I hope to hell they break your instance rules. You should instance ban this moron to keep the spread down.

Edit 2: It has been more than a day now with not even a "We will look into it." kind of reply from the admin. It may be time to look into defederation. We are effectively abandoned.

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[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 3 days ago (6 children)
[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We banned him a few hours ago. In the future, please at least navigate to the major servers and check their modlogs before pinging the admins.

Admins usually notify other admins fairly quickly about stuff like this. But in this case the other admins (myself) aren't going to know if the user had already banned by one of our colleagues, so we end up having to check multiple times.

It's all good though, I appreciate your urgency.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh I see, sorry I didn't check sooner. I'll try to check the modlog next time (hopefully there isn't a next time).

[–] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Thank you for bringing it to our attention, already banned from Lemmy.world, will communicate with the other admins to see if more action is warranted.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't mean to backseat moderate but is a 7 day ban really the best option in this situation as opposed to a permanent one with content removal? I mean this isn't an average scenario, this is an extremist user spreading hate and disinformation, and for that they get only a 7 day ban?

[–] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is a temporary measure until I can discuss it futher with the other admins. I think they'll agree a perma-ban is warranted.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ok that's good to know. I sure hope they do.

[–] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Just a follow-up, they are now perma-banned. Thank you (:

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago

Glad I could help.

[–] Taalnazi@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Thank you king/queen/chief!

It's good they're now banned

[–] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Geen probleem, mnr/mvr/overig taalnazi.

[–] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Hijacking this useful ping to say that I absolutely would not hold a grudge over defederation due to this. We can't get in touch with the admin. They are likely asleep. Please remember, though, that aside from this BS, it is just a quiet nerdy instance full of Unix lovers.

Edit: autocorrect typos

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Me neither. If the mods don't respond to or address this issue by tomorrow I will begin advocating defederation from lemmy.sdf.org because if they aren't willing or able to moderate hate speech, then they aren't a safe instance to be on or be around.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, seems like they need a spare emergency admin or two in different time zones. Hell, every instance that doesn't require approval to create communities needs those, imo

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 days ago

Most instances with a larger userbase really need to have a 24 hour team, "mods are asleep" should never happen on a server with a large userbase. The disruptions that can cause in cases like this are unacceptable.

[–] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It is a bad look for a non-profit that does some genuinely cool stuff.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah it definitely is. They should be way more attentive when it comes to moderation, as well as maintenance of their services. I still remember having to beg them to update from 0.19.2 to 0.19.3 because the instance was broken and not federating (couldn't even log in) it was so difficult to get them to do that. They did do it but it shouldn't have been anywhere near that hard.

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 days ago

Feel free to donate and collaborate!

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Contact the admins at dubvee.org they have a system of cross instance banning and tracking down to an art form. That’s assuming you can contact them if you are not banned.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I didn't think to reach out to them since they're a smaller instance, they likely don't even see this whole thing happening. This is more an issue for the bigger admins since they're the ones who will ultimately stop the spread. So I didn't really want to bother them with something that they probably can't even see.

[–] jgrim@discuss.online 7 points 3 days ago
[–] Spitfire@pawb.social 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Appears they’ve already been dealt with.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago

Nope, I looked on lemmy.sdf.org and it does not appear they have. Nazi shit is still there. So since it's been a day without any response I think it's time we started defederating from lemmy.sdf.org at least until we get updates on the situation. After all this idiot could have more sockpupets there we don't know about.