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Can't y'all get a thrid party?
Why da FAQ every regime got turned into the clown ass two party system even in countries that don't have use american clown system
We have one. Actually, we have more than one if you want to get technical. What we need is a viable third party that knows what they're doing and won't capitulate at the first sign of inconvenience while continuing to lie to constituents about their real goals and the current political situation. Also, the so-called progressive NDP needs to stop kicking people out for taking a stance against the Israeli genocide of Palestinians (yes, that happened; look up Sarah Jama's unceremonious ousting, among others).
Nothing will change without electoral reform that does away with first-past-the-post (FPTP). I personally like single transferable vote (STV) or mixed member proportional (MMPR) voting systems, but even a ranked ballot would be better than what we have now.
It's important to separate the provincial NDP from the federal NDP. They each have their faults, but they're different faults, and we shouldn't blame the provincial parties for things Singh has done, and we shouldn't blame Singh for things provincial NDP parties have done.
While I don't disagree, the ONDP and the federal NDP are a lot closer in ideology IMO than, say, the BCNDP and the federal NDP.
Since I live in Ontario and there's an election coming up provincially as well as federally, their constant failures are at the forefront of my mind and I think the provincial strategy is relevant to mention here since it ultimately shares a lot in common with the federal one. The federal NDP has been shockingly silent on Palestine for many years, well predating the most recent stage of the conflict.
All of this is just my opinion, though. If you want to keep them separate that's your business.
I mean, they're the same party. Literally. They have different entities within them focused on different geographical regions, but your provincial and federal NDP memberships are one and the same thing.
We have a third party, the NDP, but the best election result they've gotten is being the official opposition. The Liberals are supposed to be the "center" party, but somehow when we're pissed at them the country almost always goes right rather than left.
There are other parties with seats in parliment but, due to our first past the post voting system, it's rare they win enough seats to effect law changes.
If an area votes 40% Conservative, 35% Liberal, and 25% NDP then the seat goes to the Conservatives despite most of the people voting for left wing parties. People end up voting against the party they don't like by voting for the party most likely to beat them. The NDP supporters will vote Liberal to ensure the Conservatives don't win, causing the NDP to lose votes even though people prefer them over the other two.
Can't the smaller libs unite and make proper opposition or cooperating not on the table?
They could but then there wouldn't be a third party!
I mean a coalition like euro poors do
Unfortunately, due to the FPTP system, forming a coalition between the Liberals and the NDP is just not feasible because the Liberals don't want to cooperate unless they absolutely have to, which is rare because they are de facto in power about 50% of the time (usually a majority government, so there's no reason to cooperate).
The remaining "third party" options are either a) ideologically dissimilar to the NDP and would be unlikely to form a coalition with them, or b) have such a low chance of forming government that a coalition with them would not be politically advantageous.
For example, forming a coalition with the Greens or Bloc Quebecois would likely lead to a lot of concessions on the environment and on Francophone language rights that are simply not popular with NDP leadership, who are overwhelmingly swinging centrist (who knows why, really, it's extremely weird to see them campaign on worker protections one day while advocating for corporations the next).
The closest they've gotten to a coalition recently is a "supply and confidence agreement" with the minority Liberal government, which turned out to be pretty toothless and ended when the Liberals just... didn't really do anything the NDP wanted, lol.
The current government was kind of a coalition. The NDP agreed to block calls for an early election if the Liberals expanded healthcare to include dental. The NDP thought this would score some political points but the move was seen more as propping up an unpopular government and they caught a lot of flak over it. They have since announced an end to their partnership, called for Trudeau to resign, and will be calling for an early election.
We do have a third party, it's the NDP led by Jagmeet Singh. Problem is is that he has too vague of a platform, says nice platitudes about how he could do better. His party is not differentiating himself from the Liberals enough, and Singh is not leaving enough room in the spotlight to elevate other party members.
And the reason why Conservatives were in a far and away lead was that many left-leaning districts were split 40%, 30%, 25%.