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AOC says she's worth less than $500,000 after kickback claims — and seems to get kudos from Trump fans in response
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I think if we don't start WW3 and nuke the planet she's gonna be the first woman president in the US
I hope so, but she’s going to have to get through at least another four years, probably more, of being ratted and feathered by Republicans, and somehow still look clean
I still contend that was the real problem with Hillary Clinton. Not that she was a poor candidate or hade some questionable decisions but that Repugnants spent years throwing shit at her so she looked like a mess. She was at least as good as a candidate as anyone else and many of the objections were manufactured
The difference is that AOC is doing what politicians are supposed to do and establishing an identity for herself that would allow her to connect with voters. Clinton, on the other hand, presented herself as a blank slate and then whined when her enemies filled that slate in.
Clinton had a problem with her public image for years before 2016 and resolutely refused to do anything about it, instead just blaming others at every turn. That attitude shows that she would have been a shitty President. Better than Trump, of course (there are few people who wouldn't be) but still shitty by any objective measure.
All true but I thought she would have been an effective president, due to focussing on organization, negotiations, influence, and that she was generally for the same platform as bill, so I’d generally agree with it (but with obvious caveats). She would have gotten things done, but in a democratic way instead of a fascist way, and those things would align with the generic Democrat platform
I honestly think the problem with Hillary had less to do with her as a person and more with the fact that it felt like she was being forced on folks. I am not as educated on all the shenanigans the DNC pulled to get her to be the nominee over Bernie, but I know that for a lot of folks it felt like the DNC just did what they obviously keep doing and gave the job to the person they deemed “deserved it” for their own internal bs reasons, while ignoring the constituents they claim to represent. Her nomination felt like a precursor to Harris being nominated without a primary. I think that’s also where a lot of disillusionment comes from on the left, the dem party just doesn’t seem to have any desire to even pretend that they care about their constituents
Hillary has been groomed since her early thirties to be the DNC's precious darling. Living in mansions, waited on by servants.
AOC has been working real jobs trying to stay alive like most Americans have to.
The DNC would murder her if she broke through their primary defenses and got close enough.
They're fine with losing, the pendulum is part of the grift, what they aren't fine with is losing their half of that bipartisan oligarch gravy train. Our capitalists don't bribe both parties to have those parties stand against economic metastasis at all human cost.
We can have affirmation ribbons and be sucked dry by the oligarchs, or we can have scapegoating and be sucked dry by the oligarchs, that is the extent of our "freedom." Reagan and Kemp saw to that by getting their former opposition on the take.
Serious talk. When are people going to start calling them DINOs. Democrats In Name Only from the Jurassic period.
You think Trump took over the RNC because the old guard liked him?? No he built on the backs of the tea party.
Bernie and the squad were the lefts tea party. What they need now is a charismatic leader to build on it and kick the DINOs out by force.
The DNC is not that powerful. We outnumber them. Stop forgetting we outnumber them.
I call the old guard Geronocrats myself. They are old, tired, and very much uninspired. Far as I can tell, Bernie is the only ancient congress critter who is worthy of being called a leader.
Just look at the bill Hakeem Jeffries is trying to pass: to make raiding the US treasury illegal. WTF do we need a new laws for that?
I think this needs to be the strategy for sure. The progressives on the left need to start looking for truly progressive candidates to challenge each established Dem that is up for grabs in the 2026 primaries. Our real fight for democracy is no longer in the general election, it’s in the primaries. If we can’t change the Democratic Party then our only choices are a quick or a slow death
Now would be a great time to just put the democratic party out of its misery. Looking around the party, we can be comforted that at least it will go peacefully, in its sleep. Let's at least see if we can get a fresh new party out of all this shit.
That would be the golden lining from this whole damn mess - political reforms that make the spirit of the Constitution have genuine power, and a rebalancing of the scales. People like Musk should be extinguished, never to return from that dark cesspit known as capitalism.
Slave mentality is an unhealthy coping mechanism.
Good thing I don't have that.
If I did, I'd help protect the system when the molitovs start flying at it like a good house slave, I hope to assist when it isn't just me, as that would just be suicide by cop.
This isn't class war, this is 50 years of class occupation and counting. Peaceful positive change has been made impossible here on multiple levels by the owners. I put my hope in the other thing, as that's the only rational place left to put it.
Don't kid yourself. She'll be the next Bernie.
Unless the republicans field a multiple rapist convict again. Then it's a tossup and a guaranteed L, if there's a war somewhere the genocide people can get behind.
I sure hope so, she's got what it takes.