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submitted 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world
 

Summary

Elon Musk has amassed significant power in Trump’s White House, leading DOGE and embedding his tech team into federal systems.

Musk is using his X account like a personal White House pressroom podium to dominate the news cycle, pushing conspiracies and undermining Trump’s announcements.

Ironically, Trump now struggles to control Musk, who is doing to Trump what Trump did to the GOP—pushing limits and amassing a devoted fan base. Trump knows that Musk is willing to out-crazy him.

While Trump tolerates him for now, tensions may rise as Musk’s influence grows.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 123 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (3 children)

If Trump isn't scared already, he should be.

Trump may understand old media, but Musk understands new media much much better.

I'd assume that Trump assumes "Musk can't take power because he's an immigrant" as though Trump himself isn't making laws like those completely meaningless with how he is approaching things.

I think that's part of the trouble, Trump really doesn't understand all the systems that allowed his wealth to grow in the USA. He's busy tearing down the same systems that allowed him to be such a worthless waste that failed upward for eight decades.

He's like the joke about how libertarians are housecats. He's entirely dependent on a system he doesn't understand and he's tearing it down.

Musk and his ilk actually have a real plan beyond just tearing shit down meaninglessly, Trumps plan never went farther than where we are now.

[–] littlewonder@lemmy.world 12 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Musk understands new media? Are we sure about that?

[–] __nobodynowhere@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

He knows his way around a shitpost

[–] gamer@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago

I wonder about that. X is like those sitcoms where they add a laugh track after every shitty joke, except the laugh track is likes and bot comments.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

He understands it better than Trump, although that isn't saying much.

Elmo slightly knows memes because he tries to be "hip with the kids".

Memes just make Trump angry.

[–] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 21 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I think that's part of the trouble, Trump really *doesn't* understand all the systems that allowed his wealth to grow in the USA. He's busy tearing down the same systems that allowed him to be such a worthless waste that failed upward for eight decades.

You’re talking about Trump here, but really it describes the US as a whole. Americans don’t understand how the whole international system and “them paying for it” is really the basis for American hegemony, wealth and indispensability. ‘American exceptionalism’ is made possible by the global system they’re now tearing down.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 10 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

The complex emergent nature of this world is to much for any person or group to truly understand.

The documentary “HyperNormalization” covers this and assesses that the global elite have stopped trying to do so to instead focus on perception management into the facade that everything is normal and no one knows whats real anymore.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

This creation of a fake world (or model) to manage instead of dealing with the real problems of a complex, real one is such an interesting take on how modern systems work.

I'm starting to think that the complexities of even dealing with real people and their actual views on the Internet were too much for the broligarchs to manage, for instance, and that's why they're obsessed with AI.

If you can replace the real Internet with one composed of strictly bots talking to each other, you've created a facsimile of the Internet that's easier to control and manage.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 30 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I'd say he should be because E has more money.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

Musks money is honestly more of a house of cards than Trumps. It relies heavily on subsidies and stock market hype.

Tesla sales are tanking and they hardly make any cars. The stock is painfully obviously manipulated and pumped to an insane degree. It's valuation is not based in reality.

SpaceX is deeply US government funded, and I'm almost positive Musk is going to dump the pretense of going to Mars and make it clear all his work is going to go towards new ICBMs.

As much as it is garbage, Trump actually has a real estate empire. Trumps is a house of cards to an extent as well, but Musk has the much bigger fall to make if reality catches up to his companies.

[–] chase_what_matters@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Can you talk more about or share some links related to the ICBM prediction?

Musk has a god complex. He probably does actually want to go to mars.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

Trump was never a billionaire before the truth social stock IPO. On paper now he is, but if the stock tanks he's fucked. Unable to sell for six months I think I read?

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 12 points 17 hours ago

Well yeah, he's not doing what he's doing for no reason.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 14 points 16 hours ago

Indeed. I don't think fElon understands media at all. It's why he bought xitter - to push his posts by force. He doesn't understand anything other than money can buy you a platform, which is rather obvious.