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[–] RideAgainstTheLizard@slrpnk.net 50 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

The irony of using an AI generated image for this post...

AI imagery makes any article look cheaper in my view, I am more inclined to "judge the book by its cover".

Why would you slap something so lazy on top of a piece of writing you (assuming it isn't also written by AI) put time and effort into?

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago

this post is about programmers being replaced by ai. the writer seems ok with artists being replaced.

[–] Michal@programming.dev 14 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I thought it was intentional AI slop

[–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I'm sure they left the spelling mistake in the image on purpose to get increased engagement from pedants like me. I'm sorry, it works on me.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

https://defragzone.substack.com/p/run-massive-models-on-crappy-machines

the author doesn't oppose AI, just programmers being replaced for it.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (3 children)

I know that it's a meme to hate on generated images people need to understand just how much that ship has sailed.

Getting upset at generative AI is about as absurd as getting upset at CGI special effects or digital images. Both of these things were the subject of derision when they started being widely used. CGI was seen as a second rate knockoff of "real" special effects and digital images were seen as the tool of amateur photographers with their Photoshop tools acting as a crutch in place of real photography talent.

No amount of arguments film purist or nostalgia for the old days of puppets and models in movies was going to stop computer graphics and digital images capture and manipulation. Today those arguments seem so quaint and ignorant that most people are not even aware that there was even a controversy.

Digital images and computer graphics have nearly completely displaced film photography and physical model-based special effects.

Much like those technologies, generative AI isn't going away and it's only going to improve and become more ubiquitous.

This isn't the hill to die on no matter how many upvotes you get.

[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 hours ago

But people still complain about CGI in film, likely for the same reason it was criticised in the past that you mention - it looks like ass, if done cheaply (today) or with early underdeveloped tech (back in the past). Similarly so, the vast majority of AI-generated images look lazy, generic (duh) and basically give me the "ick".

Yeah, maybe they'll get better in the future. But does that mean that we can't complain about their ugliness (or whatever other issue we have with them) now?

[–] fart@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

people don't like generated so bc it's trainer on copyrighted data but if you don't believe in copyright then it's a tool like any other

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

There are thousands of different diffusion models, not all of them are trained on copyright protected work.

In addition, substantially transformative works are allowed to use content that is otherwise copy protected under the fair use doctrine.

It's hard to argue that a model, a file containing the trained weight matrices, is in any way substantially similar to any existing copyrighted work. TL;DR: There are no pictures of Mickey Mouse in a GGUF file.

Fair use has already been upheld in the courts concerning machine learning models trained using books.

For instance, under the precedent established in Authors Guild v. HathiTrust and upheld in Authors Guild v. Google, the US Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit held that mass digitization of a large volume of in-copyright books in order to distill and reveal new information about the books was a fair use.

And, perhaps more pragmatically, the genie is already out of the bottle. The software and weights are already available and you can train and fine-tune your own models on consumer graphics cards. No court ruling or regulation will restrain every country on the globe and every country is rapidly researching and producing generative models.

The battle is already over, the ship has sailed.