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Linux Mint - NOT "Usable Out of the Box" - Probably switching back to Windows (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by Cold_Brew_Enema@lemmy.world to c/linux@lemmy.ml
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My time with Linux has been equal parts amazing and absolutely infuriating. Linux Mint is NOT usable out of the box. Here have been my issues:

Nvidia GPU - Trying to figure out how to get the drivers working was a nightmare with ten million different people giving different advice on how to get it to work. Eventually I was able to get them signed and it seems to work

Bluetooth - Another nightmare. Bluetooth is terrible on Linux. It took hours to get it even remotely working ok, but I still don't think it's perfect.

Compatibility - Some things just straight up don't work for seemingly no reason. None of my controllers work with Steam, no matter how many countless hours I've spent troubleshooting.

And that is where I am disappointed. Troubleshooting Linux issues sucks. There are so many people giving their opinions and all of them are different and most don't work.

When Linux is working right it is amazing, and I love it. But right now, it just isn't as good as Windows and extremely infuriating more often than not. Guess I am going to switch back and give Bill Gates all of my info again. Really fucking disappointing

Update: Controllers seem to work after forcing compatibility mode in Steam. No idea why that was off or why Steam was essentially hijacking my controller, but it seems to work now. For everyone that helped thank you.

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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, and then you come back here raging that "Mint is not ready out of the box", which isn't true. The problem is with Steam and steam-input. You've been told this half a dozen times now. It has nothing to do with Linux (where you're posting in), or Mint specifically. It's your setup with Steam.

[–] Cold_Brew_Enema@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't see how. I have done everything you suggested with steam. I've tried every possible configuration, and nothing works.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Read what you just wrote, then tell me how Mint is the problem, and why you're posting in this sub.

[–] Cold_Brew_Enema@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Dude, I have the exact same steam configuration in Windows, and my controller works. Tell me that's not a Linux issue

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Again, it's a driver issue. Has nothing to do with *nix. The manufacturer of the controller doesn't ensure that *nix distros have access to the driver. So how can it work?

Specifically which controller is it? Have you looked for *nix drivers specifically for that device? From the manufacturer?

[–] Cold_Brew_Enema@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Thats the thing. I've tried both xbox and ps5 controllers, and none are working. I test with jstest-gtk and whats weird is the right joystick shows it only moves up and down. Not sure if that's related, but it's weird

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Like I said. It has nothing to do with the hardware, and has nothing to do with Linux. You don't have the right drivers installed: https://github.com/atar-axis/xpadneo

The drivers tell linux how to control and connect to the device. How can your hardware possibly work if you don't have that installed at all or correctly?

[–] Cold_Brew_Enema@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's a ps5 controller, not xbox

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's even worse. PS5 controllers work out of the box, basically cementing that this is a bluetooth driver issue. Did you make sure to install your bluetooth drivers?

What is your bluetooth device model? Does the driver come in the kernel, or does it require you to explicitly install?

[–] Cold_Brew_Enema@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I thought the driver came in the kernel. I am trying to use it wired, not Bluetooth. If I use lsusb it recognizes the Dualsense controller. It's so weird

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I thought the driver came in the kernel.

It entirely depends on the WiFi module. Some aren't included.

I am trying to use it wired

Then this is even more suspicious considering DualSense is probably the most well-supported controllers on Linux, with an official Sony driver. Are you doing USB-A to USB-C? Or USB-C to USB-C? If it's USB-C to USB-C is your USB-C hubs driver installed correctly? Try a different cable, specifically USB-A to USB-C. Try many different USB ports. You might have to specifically use a USB-A 2.0 port, and not 3.0/3.1/3.2 port.

[–] Cold_Brew_Enema@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Thanks for the reply. I got it working by forcing steam compatibility mode which i didn't even realize was off. I appreciate the help.

[–] Hellmo_Luciferrari@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's a driver issue.

https://www.noobslab.com/2014/08/configure-xbox-controller-on-your.html?m=1

https://community.linuxmint.com/software/view/xboxdrv

A quick search will tell you that.

The issues you're having are due to you not looking into manuals, or guides, or documentation.

Mint is usable put of the box.

The old addage: RTFM

Lol

[–] Cold_Brew_Enema@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I've spent all night and all day reading documentation and trying every solution I could find.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago

Kid, if you want proof, DM me an invite to a call somewhere you can screencast and I'll show you exactly what the issue is and fix it quickly. I'm that positive.