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[–] steeznson@lemmy.world -4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Queer people were oppressed by the social norm of not judging people for their political beliefs?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes. Because of people were judged more for voting to oppress them, maybe progress would have been made sooner. I'm amazed that isn't clear to you.

That's literally how they started becoming more accepted in mainstream America. People were shamed when they were being bigots.

[–] steeznson@lemmy.world -1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I'd argue that attempts to force people to change their beliefs too quickly has led to a conservative reactionary backlash in recent years.

Recent surveys are showing an increase in people, in particular young people, harbouring intolerant views vs even 10 years ago. I think that suggests that the maximalist progressive rhetoric on social media is turning people away from progressive causes.

Creating a more tolerant society is a frustratingly slow process where the general public gradually become acclimatised to new ways of thinking. Forcing it creates a backlash because people need to feel like they arrived at their ideas themselves. There used to be an acknowledgement that it was a mutual process which is missing from the debate today.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, and part of that process is shaming people for voting for bigots.

Which is how it also worked with people in the 1960s. I'm not sure what you think people fighting for civil rights did in terms of voters, invite Dixiecrats over to sing Kumbaya?

[–] steeznson@lemmy.world -2 points 21 hours ago

I think we've both got different perspectives on this that aren't going to change so let's agree to disagree.