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[–] LeroyJenkins@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I've lived all around this country and I think the biggest bucket that you exclude is "people who grew up their whole lives in Republican communities that also don't care about politics nearly as much as chronic Internet users". these people go to the booths and go ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯ before voting for whoever's campaign banner they saw around town more or whoever they heard a relative mention. these people are everywhere. they aren't even bad people or misinformed dummies, per say, just willingly uninformed. for a large swath of Americans, being Republican is just the default unfortunately.

[–] DontMakeMoreBabies@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

If someone lacks the intellectual curiosity to question their own beliefs, they're fucking dumb (and probably lazy). That's the first box, assuming "easily duped" means what we all know it means.

[–] dustyb0tt0mz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

they certainly shouldn't have been voting but no one wants to think about putting up barriers to keep idiots out of democracy.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 1 points 1 hour ago

Literacy tests as an entry barrier to voting were banned in 1965.

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

This is the political awareness equivalent of telling people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

People are overworked, lack childcare, have poor healthcare, come from underfunded schools, never get exposed to diversity, etc... Just because it's possible to escape those conditions and doesn't mean it's natural or easy.

Saying people are dumb and lazy is a thought terminating cliché, you have to view that as an extension of the problem.

[–] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Assuming you're correct, what alternative is there besides MAGAs getting gut-punched with reality? All the issues that you say contribute to the problem are being exacerbated by Trump.

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 1 points 45 minutes ago

There might not be an easy alternative right now.

People tend not to internalize a problem until they can personally see it, and a lot of these problems (deportations, cutting education, handcuffing the CDC, etc...) might not affect them until things get truly bleak. Unless of course they do something reckless like directly cutting funds that goes directly to their wallets (Medicare or Social Security).

Spreading awareness has always been a huge problem. Activists in Tsarist Russia had the same problem of trying to reach out to uneducated rural peasants and their efforts didn't go smoothly. And of course this was before everyone had hand held disinformation machines in their pockets.

I don't have a magic bullet but we do have some things going for us. It's not yet illegal to spread radical ideas, our targets are generally literate, and we still share a fair number of cultural references.


The following is my best guess at advice, I'm just as open to ideas as giving them:

The tricky part is that mainstream social platforms are a non starter. You'd never outweigh the echo chamber. In my opinion digital organization is secondary at best because anything can be suppressed at the whim of server owner, ISP, or government.

So as dumb as it sounds, go forth and talk to people in real life. Be sure you're educated on what you want to talk about (read your history and theory, know what political buzzwords actually mean). Try to avoid activities that insulate you in your own comfort zone, and gravitate towards ones with wide appeal and low barriers to entry.

Start a woodworking club with some like minded friends or join a book club and offer suggestions. Running group, bodybuilding, birdwatching, whatever... If you want to do some good for your community, join a mutual aid network.

Try to know the narrative these people are living in, even if it's a fantasy. Avoid trigger words they're primed to react to, keep it simple and let them draw their own conclusions. Not everyone will be receptive, some people are just assholes.

It's not sexy but it's also not that hard to point out glaring injustices in the world. Most people can at least see that far and agree that something needs to change, starting that conversation is first step.

[–] LeroyJenkins@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

pretty elitist thing to think imo. some people just don't want or have the time to concern themselves with certain things. I'm honestly envious of those people. I wish I could care less.

[–] dustyb0tt0mz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

gatekeepers have historically existed for a reason.