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China’s “Artificial Sun” Shatters Fusion Record With Over 17 Minutes of Plasma (scitechdaily.com)

submitted 6 days ago by alphacyberranger@sh.itjust.works to c/upliftingnews@lemmy.world

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[–] nulluser@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The discussion was about the unreliability of Chinese propaganda. You moved to funding scientific research. You didn't just move the goalpost a bit. You relocated it to a different city.

[–] Xttweaponttx@sh.itjust.works -3 points 4 days ago

you

Yo if we're throwing around logical fallacies you might wanna consider this one= https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_hominem

There's been a whole chain of dialogue here without you substantiating your perspective on the topic at hand 👀

[+] surph_ninja@lemmy.world -5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

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[–] nulluser@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Incorrect. Someone

posited that China’s scientific achievements

alleged achievements

were merely propaganda,

No. If true, the achievements are achievements. Actual achievements aren't propaganda. However, the claims of the alleged achievements are coming from a country notorious for whitewashing history and making claims of scientific discoveries that later turn out to be optimistic at best, and often complete fabrications. So, skepticism of their claims of achievements (aka propaganda) is justified.

And that's what this thread, that I started, is about. Responding to a post about some alleged scientific breakthrough, stating that such claims should be taken with a big grain of salt (aka, skepticism).

YOU then moved the goalpost to try to argue about whether increased funding for scientific research leads to better results. We don't know that these results actually happened. We don't know that there was actually any increase in funding. All we know is that a notorious liar is claiming so. This thread was never about whether funding scientific research can lead to discoveries. It's about claims of discoveries from China are not reliable.

and I pointed out that they have invested heavily in research, which tends to produce outcomes.

And that's when you moved the goalpost, likely because you don't want to discuss China's history of lies and propaganda.