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Arch is aimed at people who know their shit so they can build their own distro based on how they imagine their distro to be. It is not a good distro for beginners and non power users, no matter how often you try to make your own repository, and how many GUI installers you make for it. There's a good reason why there is no GUI installer in arch (aside from being able to load it into ram). That being that to use Arch, you need to have a basic understanding of the terminal. It is in no way hard to boot arch and type in archinstall. However, if you don't even know how to do that, your experience in whatever distro, no matter how arch based it is or not, will only last until you have a dependency error or some utter and total Arch bullshit® happens on your system and you have to run to the forums because you don't understand how a wiki works.

You want a bleeding edge distro? Use goddamn Opensuse Tumbleweed for all I care, it is on par with arch, and it has none of the arch stuff.

You have this one package that is only available on arch repos? Use goddamn flatpak and stop crying about flatpak being bloated, you probably don't even know what bloat means if you can't set up arch. And no, it dosent run worse. Those 0,0001 seconds don't matter.

You really want arch so you can be cool? Read the goddamn 50 page install guide and set it up, then we'll talk about those arch forks.

(Also, most arch forks that don't use arch repos break the aur, so you don't even have the one thing you want from arch)

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[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I never see Fedora recommended enough, but it's really good for beginners. And by that I mean people new to computers, not just Linux. GNOME is a good looking by default, intuitive to use, simple DE.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago

it wasn't my choice but i recently installed Fedora for a beginner. (They made their research, read about different distros and chose Fedora.) It was surprising to see how intuitive everything is. A beginner can indeed start using Fedora with no previous Linux experience.

By "beginner" i mean somebody who used one or some of these: windows, macos, ios and android. It's especially easy, i think, for tablet users.

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

GNOME is explicitly what kept me exclusively on Windows for about a decade - and what made me gunshy about Android & iOS. It's totally impossible to drive anything important, doing anything of value required a DOS prompt and arcane commands that had no relation to their exact counterpart in Windows, and it's just utterly revolting to me.

Cinnamon is the only DE that made me feel comfortable daily driving Linux.

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's really interesting, because I've had a very different experience. Almost anything I wanted to do could be done through a GUI, which looks pretty.

I'm not sure how Android and iOS relate, they are mobile OSs, and both have their flaws, although some more than others.

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

To go in reverse order: iOS & Android are related because they're Linux/UNIX. They're not CP/M based. As a result, my level of trust and respect are always near-zero.

I'm glad you have a different experience with GNOME, someone ought to. I guess it wouldn't be the standard if no one could use it.

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago

Android technically uses the Linux kernel, but is not GNU+Linux, and has had all the good parts of Linux taken out. I didn't know iOS was based on Linux, but it's even worse than Android, locks you so much into Apple's services and spending money. Freedom over your device is the point of Linux, and iOS fails at that even more than Android, at least with Android you can install custom ROMs.