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DOGE Now Has Access to the Top US Cybersecurity Agency (www.wired.com)
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[–] venotic@kbin.melroy.org 41 points 2 days ago (4 children)

DOGE has access to nuclear codes DOGE has access to all medical records DOGE has access to everything

And we should know that we expected Musk to have access to everything because Trump allows it. But, they're allowing a 19-year old, with connections to hacker groups, with access.

The whole discipline of not sharing information online is practically moot at this point. How can we trust that this kid won't be sharing this kind of information to his connections?

[–] punkwalrus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Here's the thing: Trump may has said he allowed it via executive order, and whatever. But you come after data I was sworn to protect? Come here with a judge-vetted legal warrant and court order. Oh, you'll fire me? Then I did my job. I'll be arrested for doing the right thing, not cowardly giving in "because they might yell at me." Yeah, I did that once, and I got a big fat nothing out of it. I got out before the S&L crisis, but I saw it coming a mile away. I have no loyalty to some rando from South Africa. I have a loyalty and duty to my job and country and fellow citizens.

My hope, and it's a thin hope, is that they really can't fucking do anything with the data because they don't understand it. Or lied they have it, and we let them believe this lie as part of the protection. They only have 200 copies of "WideWorldImporters Sample Database for SQL Server and Azure SQL Database" and think it's real. Or whatever. Unlikely, but I gotta have hope somewhere. Part of this is because I know how PII is stored, and it's not like one large file. It's multiple systems with "just in time" joins and a horrible complex mess that's a wonder it works at all. A bunch of 19 year olds and a rich liar are monkeys with baseball bats hitting a random laptop as a comparison. Millions are spent on contractors to work with it, and rarely does any single one person know how it ALL works. Just pieces of it. And some of it was in COBOL. What, one of those kids has a spare PDP/11 in their garage? But, maybe that's thinking too hopefully.

Even if they suddenly stopped, it will take decades to undo the damage they have already done.

Side note: "the launch codes" are not like, two hex keys to launch nuclear missiles. It's so much more complicated than that, that I used to fear in the 1980s that the Ruskies would bomb us flat before someone with the right laminated notebook was located. "What? The keys didn't work? Didn't anyone test if the keys fit? NO???" I'm not saying that's an exact case, but an example of shit I have run into. I have to also hope for sheer incompetence saving us, like out of the movie Brazil or something. God damn, this is a bleak dystopia.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

But, they're allowing a 19-year old, with connections to hacker groups, with access.

Now now, you know that's not exactly true. It'sa 19-year old nazi with connections to hacker groups.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I kind of always thought script kiddies would be the end of modern nations... but not quite like this.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Musks long dream of x, the "everything app" (ie, the app all must use to buy, sell,travel,work,receive medical care,and be surveilled by means of starlink, and all federal systemds will run through, etc)is soon to come to fruition.

Kinda sounds like the mark of the beast.

https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/26/23808796/elon-musks-x-everything-app-vision

https://landfamilyhome.substack.com/p/a-household-guide-for-cyber-defense

Possible motive: “X” —> American WeChat

Like other crimes, with cyber attacks it is important to identify a motive to understand your attacker better and anticipate their next move. In this attack I believe the motive is a forced cutover of critical infrastructure systems in banking, telecommunications and travel to a centralized model. In plain terms what I’m saying is that DOGE wants to migrate American federal systems to X using the WeChat model where all network and transactional systems are centrally routed and processed. I believe this is the case because of these signals:

Elon Musk said he was going to do this with X, see reporting here from The Verge.

Apple silently released an update as part of 18.3 on Friday that includes Starlink support.

What this could look like from a rollout perspective is:

X is assigned as the communications authority for all government agencies, this is already underway: NTSB exclusively communicating via X.

Route all federal transactions through X: This is underway as DOGE has taken control of the federal treasury and pushed out the acting director.

Create X profiles that map to the US citizen records database, to streamline management of identity and act as proof of citizenship.

Standardize on a government monitored telecommunications network, Starlink, to allow network traffic control of all domestic communications, giving federal agencies (or just DOGE) the authority to censor information at will.