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[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

That is the literal opposite of what the world needs.

Windows isn't a bad OS from a purely technical perspective. If Windows were released as FOSS, I would switch to Windows without hesitation.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 17 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Are you sure it's not bad from a technical perspective? I saw a story from a former programmer talking about how changes would be made the to the interface in the new settings app that's trying to replace control panel and the shit was like a horror story.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Mostly because Microsoft tries to maintain backwards compatibility to ridiculous extents, and their customers grew accustomed to it so they kinda rely on it, no ?

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

I mean, they do until they don't. They eventually retired 16 bit subsystem, and they are gungho on TPM now. They have always had EOL dates for old OS's too. I'm not entirely sure why they do what they do, I suspect they are too large and unwieldy to operate as an entity with a unified vision.

[–] towelie@lemm.ee 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Surely it's less work to maintain security patches for a few prior versions of windows than it is to indefinitely maintain backwards compatibility

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

Sure, and for home users the backwards compatibility feature only really comes up for people into retro-gaming, but a significant portion of their customer base is government agencies that haven't updated their software since the '90s. The old hardware is dying, so they need new stuff, and that means something with a new OS to run it, but it also needs to be able to run an ancient program that can only be replaced if some some seventy-something who calls every console a Nintendo can be made to understand why software older than their grandkids isn't the best thing to have, and they might need to introduce and pass a bill to get it done, not to mention budgeting to commission a company to code the replacement.

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

You could keep the kernel tho while changing the gui

[–] MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zip 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The windows kernel isn't all that great, particularly in the realm of memory security or scheduling.

You know, to each their own. Question is really whether windows maintaining a closed source kernel even makes sense from a maintenance burden perspective when it really doesn't give them much money in return. (Most of their money in 2025 comes from cloud services, not operating systems)

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 2 points 14 hours ago

Rumors (Yes, just rumors, I know) have it that MS is working on a shim to be able to just use the Linux kernel under the hood. That's what spawned WSL. It is a side effect of the work to get the shim between the Win64 userland and Linux kernel. The shim will probably be a temporary thing, until all the ABIs are done.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

maybe, but there are also things it arguably does better than Linux, e.g. user access control

(If you can still find this story, I'd be very interested in it, please do link to it here.)

[–] ArseAssassin@sopuli.xyz 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] DeaDvey@lemmy.ml 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Holy crap, that's the exact post I was talking about! Nice!

[–] towelie@lemm.ee 6 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

The full Microsoft XP source code was leaked and is available for anyone on GitHub; not the same, I know, but it's atleast NT based. I've just always wondered why a community never formed to fork it

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 11 points 17 hours ago

Because it's not legal and no one's going to develop software for XP. Someone could make and sell security patches for it, but the type of person who still runs XP either doesn't care enough to buy security patches or it's running some hardware that isn't connected to the internet.

There are exactly two games released in the past few years that have XP support, but that was more a flex on the part of the developer then catering to the market. HROT and Zortch are those games if you're curious.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 7 points 21 hours ago (2 children)
[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

yeah I know, far from production-ready though

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 2 points 20 hours ago

That is the fun part 😏

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I had forgotten about this!! I’ll have to start up a VM this morning to check it out.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 20 hours ago

https://youtu.be/u0nuEXxzsdI

For those who don’t have the spare time 🤭