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Firefox maker Mozilla deleted a promise to never sell its users' personal data and is trying to assure worried users that its approach to privacy hasn't fundamentally changed. Until recently, a Firefox FAQ promised that the browser maker never has and never will sell its users' personal data. An archived version from January 30 says:

Does Firefox sell your personal data?

Nope. Never have, never will. And we protect you from many of the advertisers who do. Firefox products are designed to protect your privacy. That's a promise.

That promise is removed from the current version. There's also a notable change in a data privacy FAQ that used to say, "Mozilla doesn't sell data about you, and we don't buy data about you."

The data privacy FAQ now explains that Mozilla is no longer making blanket promises about not selling data because some legal jurisdictions define "sale" in a very broad way:

Mozilla doesn't sell data about you (in the way that most people think about "selling data"), and we don't buy data about you. Since we strive for transparency, and the LEGAL definition of "sale of data" is extremely broad in some places, we've had to step back from making the definitive statements you know and love. We still put a lot of work into making sure that the data that we share with our partners (which we need to do to make Firefox commercially viable) is stripped of any identifying information, or shared only in the aggregate, or is put through our privacy preserving technologies (like OHTTP).

Mozilla didn't say which legal jurisdictions have these broad definitions.

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[–] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 21 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Gahhhh this is horrible

I spent some time switching to Librewolf this morning but at the end of the day, it having Firefox as the upstream means it’s all fragile and tenuous anyway

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I installed Librewolf despite being a furry that loves foxes and it legit fixed every Firefox issue I had. But they were all local issues.

[–] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nice, what issues?

TBH I was tempted to try IceCat first because of the name (I’m not a furry but I do think cats are cool). But no official binaries and I’m already running enough custom-compiled software, thing I need least is for my browser to be like that too haha

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Ahhh that makes sense hahaha.

The issues I was running into I’m SURE stemmed from having a bloated profile, so I could have fixed them by clearing my profile out, or reinstalling (probably.) video on my partner’s computer (our main entertainment machine) would only play in Private Mode for some reason. Hanime wouldn’t play anything at all, the site was bugged out. Many pages displayed super weird on their machine, too. My computer had some video playing issues but I didn’t run into pages displaying strangely.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Switched to librewolf the other day, and it's great

[–] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Been using it all day now and yeah, it’s very smooth sailing. The tweaks I made basically involved removing fingerprinting protection, which I saw people online deride as “defeating the entire purpose of Librewolf”. Well, not true anymore.

I just want manifest v2 and to not have to consent to ToS agreements implicitly allowing some suspicious organisation to harvest and sell literally any keypress I enter into the browser, which has become the de facto cross platform way to do almost everything.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

How do the fingerprinting protection things defeat the purpose of librewolf? Seems like an unambiguously good thing for privacy... Or does it conflict with another feature?

[–] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 1 points 16 hours ago

Oh, sorry for the confusion. The posts online I’ve found about the subject of disabling fingerprinting protection in Librewolf are full of people who state that doing so “defeats the purpose of Librewolf”. Which probably WAS true before Mozilla’s recent changes, since the sole reason Librewolf had to exist was to be a hardened version of Firefox.

That’s no longer the case since Librewolf has a new purpose (now that Mozilla thinks they own the right to sell all your data): a Firefox fork without Mozilla.

I disabled a lot of that stuff because it’s kind of annoying for usability, e.g. browser won’t render anything at more than 60fps. I know this is a trade off and I’m cool with that. I have other tools and strategies in place to protect my privacy.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

Funny thing reddit uses some form fingerprint iding to ban people.