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The answer to "what is Firefox?" on Mozilla's FAQ page about its browser used to read:

The Firefox Browser is the only major browser backed by a not-for-profit that doesn’t sell your personal data to advertisers while helping you protect your personal information.

Now it just says:

The Firefox Browser, the only major browser backed by a not-for-profit, helps you protect your personal information.

In other words, Mozilla is no longer willing to commit to not selling your personal data to advertisers.

A related change was also highlighted by mozilla.org commenter jkaelin, who linked direct to the source code for that FAQ page. To answer the question, "is Firefox free?" Moz used to say:

Yep! The Firefox Browser is free. Super free, actually. No hidden costs or anything. You don’t pay anything to use it, and we don’t sell your personal data.

Now it simply reads:

Yep! The Firefox Browser is free. Super free, actually. No hidden costs or anything. You don’t pay anything to use it.

Again, a pledge to not sell people's data has disappeared. Varma insisted this is the result of the fluid definition of “sell” in the context of data sharing and privacy.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago (2 children)

No, that's a bullshit false dichotomy.

People would rather have Firefox developed ethically by a proper foundation that's supported by grants and donations even if its total operating budget is vastly lower. (It wouldn't be able to have a grossly overpaid CEO like Mozilla does now. Oh noooooooo....)

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

I'm fine with that, people should advocate that more. I don't disagree with you, but a lot of the coverage and commentary seems to reminicse about a nebulous "the way it was before" which wasn't ideal either.

[–] verdigris@lemmy.ml -5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Where are these grants coming from? They already take in donations and it's not nearly enough to pay the engineers. Sure I'd love it if the c-suite took a pay cut but the truth is that a modern web browser is a big enough project that it basically requires an enterprise-size team dedicated to its maintenance.

[–] lemminator@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"They already take in donations..."

Where can I dontate to Firefox? Not Mozilla, and not a fund that goes to CEO-pay or other expences, but straight to Firefox

[–] verdigris@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/donate/

The Mozilla Foundation is the parent non-profit of the for-profit Mozilla Corporation.

[–] lemminator@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But that's not donating to Firefox, that's donating to Mozilla, which I don't want to do, because they seem to be wasting their money.

[–] verdigris@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If your concern is that the money goes to efforts for an open internet, and not too enriching any executives, then you want to donate to the non-profit, not the corporation.

[–] lemminator@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But I don't want to donate to the "open internet" or the non-profit, I want to donate directly to Firefox. How can I ensure that the money I spend gets spent on that and only that?

[–] verdigris@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Donate to the corporation. They're the people who work on the product.

What point do you think you're making here?

[–] lemminator@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I feel like my point was pretty clear, but to spell it out: Mozilla is mis-managing their resources. I want to make sure the resources that I give to them only go towards what I consider to be worthwhile projects.

[–] verdigris@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Right which is why I told you about the non-profit which is the organization that's dedicated to the open web. I feel like that's pretty clear.

[–] lemminator@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah, you were clear. I thought I was being clear when I said that I don't want to fund the "open web" as Mozilla defines it. I only want to fund Firefox development.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago

If you donate dire tly to firefox then mozilla would just contribute less and reserve more for CEO.