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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 81 points 11 hours ago (11 children)

It's funny how far ahead 3d printers are in terms of consumer experience, everything is open, everything works and the tech is like 300 times more complex.

2D printer companies should be shamed to death.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 31 minutes ago

It's not that hard to convert a cheap 3D printer into a pen plotter is you want to do some 2D printing.

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 37 minutes ago

Idk if the tech for 3d printers is really more complex. All of the parts are readily available, basically nothing needs to be specially made except the hot end (one single metal part)

The consumer experience for 2d printers worse IMO but that's probably because I'm stuck on Windows with its terrible printing system

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

People that Weasle their way up the corporate ladder have been prefectly groomed to have no shame.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

They're actually behind. 3D printers are a much newer industry. Most industries start out super open, competitive and collaborative. This speeds up development to consumer-grade products. Eventually one or two companies gain sufficient marketshare to start enforcing anti-consumer shitfuckery. Look at the recent drama with Bambu printers and you'll find that's exactly what's happening. It's a tale as old as time.

Framework actually trolled us into thinking they were going to release a printer but instead they went into a market segment where everything was already modular, repairable and upgradable and gave us something that was not, at all. But hey, they gotta capitalize on the AI nonsense too, I guess?

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Enshitification is the word of this century

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 hour ago

The consumer getting a product is just a byproduct of generating profits.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 16 points 6 hours ago

2D printers used to be like this.
They all worked with open, universal drivers, no additional software, and any ink cartridge that fit inside the bay.
But then companies figured out that people will just buy the cheapest printer on offer, regardless of everything else.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 60 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Over time as 3D printers go from tinkerer's toy to household staple, I'd expect them to become more locked down and anti-consumer.

[–] CandleTiger@programming.dev 54 points 9 hours ago

Bambu is working on it already — can’t print unless you’re connected to the internet and send your files through their server, can’t connect to the printer with other slicers besides their slicer.

They had to walk that back some; there is now a “developer mode” where old standard functionality is still exposed, but they’re clearly working as hard as they can to turn it shitty.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago

By my count, it's been tried twice.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 9 hours ago

They would have to become sci-fi level capable before they would be considered household staple items.

[–] paf@jlai.lu 31 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

This is mainly because consumer 3d printer have been developped by 3d printing enthusiast first and not a company, Prusa which was leader for some time used a lot of open sources project to build their printers. As it's getting mainstream as time goes by more and more companies shows up with closed sources project sadly.

[–] xnx@slrpnk.net -2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Isn’t prusa now doing anti consumer / closed source stuff?

[–] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 9 points 7 hours ago

Aren't you confusing them with Bambu?

Their slicer is based on Prusa's exactly because Prusa isn't doing closed source.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 15 points 10 hours ago

Don't worry. Companies like Bambu and others are trying to lock down shift their printer business in the style of 2d printer companies. I hope it at least happens very slowly, but the enshittification is happening...

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

Has anyone figured out how to 3d print a 2d printer yet?

Edit: actually, scratch that entirely. How difficult do you suppose it would be to create an aftermarket non-malicious logic board to drive the hardware in lieu of the malicious OEM board? After all, it's not the cartridges refusing to print.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

There are some projects out there that do the entire frame. Steppers, hotend, and control boards are out of reach. There's some hypothetical ways you could do it, but it'd be far more expensive than buying off the shelf stuff and probably get worse results. Even the frames tend to take a lot of filament.

It's more of a nice idea than something practical.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Has anyone figured out how to 3d print a 2d printer yet?

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

There is a piece of software which will take a word document and convert it into an embossed 3D print file. So you could always just skip the middleman and 3D print yourself a plaque version of your document instead.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Just print it, roll some ink on it and slap a sheet of paper on top. There you go, printing 2.0 or something.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That sounds like a 15th century printing press with extra steps.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 15 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Kind of, but with less wood and a lot more micro plastics. That's how you can tell it's modern.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I used to have wood a lot more often, before microplastics.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 41 minutes ago* (last edited 41 minutes ago)

If you start sieving your urine you'll never have to buy filament ever again. Really it's a blessing in disguise.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago

Except those who aren't.