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[-] CheeseAndCatsup@lemmy.ca 55 points 2 years ago

It will be a shit show until Canada and the rest of the western world work out agreements independent of the US.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 23 points 2 years ago

Isolating a fascist power with the strongest military in the world doesn't work. Eventually they work up the balls to use it.

Every nation should be prepared for what happens when the purge of the US military and government is complete and only loyalists hold power.

[-] slickgoat@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

Given that there are no ideal moves in any direction, I feel that standing up to the bully is the only option on the table. They failed to do that in 1939.

[-] LeFantome@programming.dev 9 points 2 years ago

It is still the right thing to do. As you say, we just all need to be prepared for it.

[-] slickgoat@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

And another thing. Its America's job to police this mess, they installed him either directly or indirectly. The rest of the world didn't ask or vote for this dangerous toddler.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 2 years ago

There are plenty of the dead who weren't responsible for what killed them.

[-] slickgoat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I'm not sure what to make of that in context. Do you mean that we should just suck it up?

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 2 years ago

Suck up the reality that counting on Americans to handle Trump isn't a plan, it's a hope.

[-] slickgoat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Don't fret... I have absolutely no expectations that Americans can pull out of this power dive. I just hope that most of the damage will be self inflicted.

[-] seejur@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

What happens if a NATO country Attack another NATO country?

[-] freebee@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

No joke, I can see UK and France offering nuclear retaliation response promise to Canada, outside of NATO. I think trump really is dumb enough to start real war with for example Canada. NATO is dead, rest of the west needs to make similar protection agreements without USA, besides NATO , for when shit really hits the fan (I think it will, it's a matter of when, not if).

[-] Pringles@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

Well, article 5 doesn't apply then. Other agreements may still apply.

[-] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago

Of course it applies! Where are you getting that it doesn't from?

[-] Pringles@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

From article 5 from the NATO treaty actually. It states that it applies to attacks from external actors, i.e. non-members.

Edit: the article or nato treaty doesn't state it that explicitly actually. But a quick google show that it's at least the consensus interpretation

[-] Alpha71@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

it states that it applies to attacks from external actors, i.e. non-members

Which America would be if they leave NATO...

[-] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It has been hotly debated, mostly in regards to Greece and Türkiye, who have been at each other's throats for decades. In that case, the aggressor likely wouldn't be obvious and both are likely to claim article 5. Their relations to other NATO members are also a lot more ambiguous, some favoring one, some the other.

In the case of a rogue USA attacking Canada, or Denmark, I believe the case would be a lot clearer.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 22 points 2 years ago

Over here in the EU we still need gas and oil. I'd much rather import it from Canada than from Qatar or some other middle eastern dictatorship.

[-] Alpha71@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

We're already doing that. EVERYBODY is doing that. every western nation is doing their best to cut America out of their trading deals. Donnie has seriously fucked America over.

[-] gilogr@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They should call it "The Free World Agreement".

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