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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Education, economic stability and social mobility, political reforms and democracy, media and free speech, legal protections and human rights movements.

Surely the powerful can't say no to any of that.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

they wouldn't dare

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk -3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If your argument here is that violence is the answer, then please, tell me how much violence does it take for you to change your core beliefs? Because for me the answer is that no amount is enough. At best it'll just make me hide them. Now, because I know it doesn't work on me I thus don't expect it to work on other people either.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

Violence isn't always the answer.

But violence is very often the answer.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I... Don't think the violence needs to change minds.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Why not, kill enough protestors and eventually the rest won't want to protest any more. See? Changing hearts and minds, one machinegun spray at a time. Like the Marines in Afghanistan.

/s

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

your argument here is that violence is the answer, then please, tell me how much violence does it take for you to change your core beliefs?

No reason to force a false dichotomy, I don't think anyone here is saying that violence is the answer to every problem. Just that sometimes it's the only appropriate response to people who are themselves willing to do violence.

how much violence does it take for you to change your core beliefs? Because for me the answer is that no amount is enough. At best it'll just make me hide them.

That's the entire point of fascism. Fascist don't actually care about actually swaying everyone to their ideology. All they have to do is achieve a monopoly of violence and use it to make sure people are too afraid to stand up to them.

Now, because I know it doesn't work on me I thus don't expect it to work on other people either.

A confident claim from someone who's likely never experienced the level violence that can be levied by an oppressive regime.