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Ketamine does not have this effect at all. It doesn't even directly work on the receptors that would invoke such behavior. Half of the stuff in the article is cherry picked to suit a narrative. It doesn't even include the effect of thinking one can rule the world outside of the clickbait title. And LMAO at pointing out the ketamine delusions of a nutjob who previously tried to use LSD to communicate with dolphins, that was a new one.
(Source: I have been a ketamine user for 15 years with no problems, and I hosted government approved drug education for a while)
Lilly wasn't a nut job. His dolphin experiments ultimately failed, but it takes courage to try radical scientific experiments. Consider the common attitude towards science in academia these days where so many people fudge their results because they're afraid of being considered failures. Failure is a part of science because you can learn from it. One of the cool things about Lilly's experiments is that he didn't feel the need to commercialise his experiments. They were mostly based on pure scientific inquiry.
I'm just pointing out what most people should take away from the reference to that guy. They are pointing out that ketamine can make you delusional but then use the worst example out there; somebody who already could be considered delusional. That's cherry picking.
I get that. I just felt the need to defend lilly a bit because I've been reading his books since I was a teenager. It's like when you read something inaccurate about a topic you know. Just wanting to correct the record somewhat.
Sure thing. I'll have a look at his stuff.
Glad I'm not the only one who feels this way, I go through a healthy amount of ketamine recreationally and I feel like it has almost the opposite effect. I feel very small, almost insignificant in the grand scheme of things, but in a really healthy and positive way. Like I'm no more important than anyone else
Recreationally or for depression?
My usage? Recreational. Although I fully understand that it can be used against depression. There's something beautiful and soothing in the simplicity of life after a ketamine night.
MXE was my all time favorite for the year or so that it was available before China cracked down on all of the labs. And for some reason it's never come back.
But it was like ketamine's slightly more euphoric and psychedelic little brother.
I'm intrigued, but mainly for depression. But unless I get much worse I think I should probably stick to the drugs I already know.
I'm not sure I can suggest that. Its effects are mostly the same among people but I don't think everybody would benefit from it. There's also the constant oppression from governments and outside people that might make your state of mind even worse.
Maybe try it out, but don't go thinking it's a miracle drug that'll heal you without you also doing some work.
I have enough drug experience, both prescribed and recreational, that I know better than to think that. But at the same time I understand that subtle things can add up.
The main thing I notice is that it only helps mentally if I go out and do stuff.
Sitting at home and doing it by myself doesn't really help.
For depression it is specifically to be used in addition to your antidepressant.
Dude seriously... Fuck Elon Musk for singlehandedly ruining the reputation of a great chemical (for medical and responsible recreational use).
No, ketamine does not make people feel like they can rule the world? The fuck? They're more likely to zone out on the couch for a couple of hours because they have literally dissociated, and they're not thinking about anything, let alone world domination.
I'm on 80mg troches currently for symptom management. What dosage do you use?