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[–] Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think he means that he paid for it, but never truly owns it when your forced to pay tax or they take your house away.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If you want to get reductive, you never truly own it even if you live in a society where there is no tax.

The rule of law that allows the concept of private ownership to be upheld in society runs on tax dollars. If you take away all of the tax dollars, the mechanisms that define and enforce the rule of law go with it.

In a completely tax free society someone can just kick in your door of your house and shoot you, and now they own your house. Who will stop the thief/murderer? There's no police, no courts, no judges, no jails. If instead of an individual its a foreign nation, there's no military to defend your nation's borders. All of that comes from tax dollars. So even then you never really own your own house because someone can take it (and your life) away from you.

[–] cheers_queers@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

there have been entire civilizations that didn't rely on taxes and cops, and they managed just fine. this is a Western/colonial mindset.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Feel free to name one for discussion.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 days ago

Any “civilization” without some form of taxation is either primitive hunter gatherers, or a despotism where the chief already owns everything and everyone.