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So I am currently rewatching Stargate SG1 and thinking about certain things that always rub me the wrong way when watching or reading SciFi. Now, I know that Stargate in particular doesn't really take itself too seriously and shouldn't be scrutinized too much. It's also a bit older. But there are still some things that even modern SciFi-Worlds featuring outer space and aliens have or lack, that always slightly rub me the wrong way. I would love to hear your opinion.

  1. Lack of any form of camera surveillance technology

I mean, come on, the Goa'uld couldn't figure out a way to install their equivalent of cameras all over their battle ships in order to monitor it? They have forms of video/picture transmitting technology. Star Trek also seems to lack any form of video surveillance. (I'm not up to date with the newest series.) Yes, I get that having a crew member physically go to a cargo bay and check out the situation is better for dramatic purposes. But it always rubs me the wrong way that they have to do that. I would just love to see a SciFi-Series set in space where all space ships are equipped with proper camera technology. Not just some vague "sensor" that tells the crew "something is wrong, but you will still have to physically go there and see it for yourself". I want the captain of a space ship to have access to the 200,000 cameras strategically placed all over the ship to monitor it.

  1. Languages

I have studied linguistics, learned several foreign languages and lived in a foreign country for a while, so my perspective is influenced by that. I always find it weird when everybody "just talks English". Yes, I get that it's easier to write stories in which all characters can just freely interact with each other. But it's always so weird to me when an explorer comes to a foreign planet and everybody just talks their language. At least make up an explanation for it! "We found this translator device in the space ship that crashed on earth". There you go. I love the Stargate Movie where Daniel Jackson figures out how to communicate with the people on Abydos. During the series most worlds will just speak English, with some random words in other languages thrown in. As someone interested in linguistics I love Stargate for how much it features deciphering languages, though I still find it weird when they go to another world and everybody just speaks English.

  1. Humanoid aliens

Especially with modern CGI I would just love to shows get more creative when it comes to alien races. We don't need a person in a costume anymore. Every once in a while you will have that weird alien pop up, but all in all I feel like there's still a lot of potential. Also changes in Human physiology due to different environmental conditions on foreign planets.

That being said, I would also like to mention some SciFi-titles that in my mind stand out for being very creative in this regard:

  • The writing of Julie Czerneda is very creative when it comes to alien species. She was a biologist and uses her knowledge to create a wide variety of alien life forms
  • The forever war (Without spoiling the end, so I'll leave it at that. Just liked it as a creative take on an alien race so different it's incomprehensible to us)
  • I very much appreciate Douglas Adams for the babel fish.
  • I also liked The expanse for including the development of a Belter language and changes in human physiology due to different gravity.

What do you think? Do you know any good examples of SciFi-Worldbuilding, that solve some common inconsistencies?

(Edited because it looked weird :P) Also, I rembered one more thing: I have two serious food allergies and I always cringe when I see characters take some random food from an alien civilisation and eat. It's especially bad right now while rewatching Stargate. SG1 just keeps happily eating and drinking anything that is offered and there are so many scenes of them eating without asking much. Maybe it's just because I can't even do that in my own society and am so used to always asking "What is in it? Can I eat it?" Although some shows have good solutions like standard nutrient packs in a military context or food replicators that create any food you want.

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[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 12 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (4 children)

Yeah I will say it's fun to point out the plot holes whenever comparing it to the real world. But as you get older you realize. I don't want writers to care about this stuff unless it is in service to the story. That's the problem with a lot of new scifi. Is worrying about this stuff and always calling back to previous series is what bogs down storying telling. If your story is good I don't care about the holes.

[–] Waldelfe@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I get what you mean, but on the other hand I want to be able to out myself into the story and relate to the characters. If the characters are behaving in a dumb way or the problems they face are too unrealistic, that takes away from the enjoyment. Let me put it like that: I can suspend my disbelieve to accept that an allien artifact can create a wormhole to another planet or that intelligent parasitic life forms exist. I find it hard to believe the US military would send poeple to alien planets without cautioning them about eating the local food. Because to me it is inconsistent with the premise: A military operation would at least address this problem in some form. As I said, it's just a minor annoyance to me, not a big plot hole or anything. But I find it hard to enjoy media where part of the storytelling is based on the premise "let's just assume this advanced human/alien civilisation hasn't thought about an easy solution that we have been using for decades".

[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

"I find it hard to believe the US military would send poeple to alien planets without cautioning them about eating the local food."

I laughed hard when I saw this sentence. I guess you have not been around the military much. The military puts solders, sailors , marines, and airmen through class after class to not do stupid shit when deployed or even state side and they still do stupid shit and get article 15s or worse arrested.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 hours ago

The "cinema-sins-ification" of media criticism has been a fucking disaster for our collective media literacy.

If your story is good enough, no one gives a fuck about plot holes.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

yeah, you want viewers to be subject to fridge logic because the alternative is that they realise while watching because the plot isn't grabbing them.

[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah also I thought we all agreed to call out tv tropes links as I have to work and can't go down a rabbit hole for the next 8 hours. 😉

[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

It's also the reason I hated mobile phones in media. It kills so many story lines if they use them.

These two people can't communicate watch as they learn to build a common language or one picks up a phone uses the translation app and roll credits

One person needs to tell the person they love them before they get on that plane. Obstacles put in the way of the protagonist as a metaphor for their courage to say the words I love you or person picks up the phone and calls them roll credits.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 1 points 4 hours ago

i was going to CW it but i thought it was funnier to let you, personally, suffer

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I would like to see someone re-do Star Trek from the ground up. Get rid of all existing alien races and story lines. Start with a brand new ship and a different confederation of races.

[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Kinda what orville did if they would have dropped the comedy sooner