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Secretary of State Marco Rubio said on Monday that Ukraine would have to make concessions over land that Russia had taken since 2014 as part of any agreement to end the war.

Mr. Rubio spoke as he was flying to Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, for talks with senior Ukrainian officials, and 10 days after a contentious White House meeting between President Trump and his Ukrainian counterpart, Volodymyr Zelensky. The Trump administration halted military aid to Ukraine after the blowup, which centered on Mr. Trump’s refusal to include any security guarantees in a proposed deal involving Ukraine’s natural resources.

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[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 41 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

I don't see any peace deal unless there is security guarantees, it is not peace without guarantees.

This just embolden russia to rape Ukraine again for more lands. Marco Rubio is promoting a forever war.

Ukraine guarantees were taken away when the nukes were taken away.

[–] commander@lemmings.world 18 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Why do you put stock in security guarantees now?

Ukraine had security "guarantees" when Russia invaded because they gave up their nukes that Western nation have not followed through on.

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 18 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (4 children)

Memorandum was not really a guarantee. NATO is more of a guarantee, nukes are more of a guarantee. Guarantee means NATO and/or Nukes.

Don't need to believe it will work, Nukes and NATO has worked in the past to maintain peace along russia borders.

[–] alkbch@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

NATO membership is off the table, virtually no NATO country wants Ukraine to join.

[–] supercriticalcheese@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Security garantee is only worth as much as the nation giving it wants to honour it.

With this president is meaningless

[–] Aux@feddit.uk -3 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

NATO is not a guarantee anymore. Trump openly said that if specific European NATO countries will get attacked by Russia then there will be no response.

[–] alkbch@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

Yes, the ones who don’t meet the defense spending targets.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 13 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Aux@feddit.uk 1 points 7 hours ago

NATO is pretty much dead now.