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[–] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unless you're addressing every Western nation with your remarks, then it's just whitewashing your own nation's crimes against humanity. Pointing that out isn't whataboutism, it's a perfectly valid argument addressing your hypocrisy. I'm not going to say you're wrong, because you're not. But I think we can all agree we had really good teachers on how to be horrible.

So maybe don't call people laughingstocks over something your country is probably also still engaging in to this day, eh?

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social -4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah, no.

That's not how it works, you don't get to not be called massive jokes because of our utterly dysfunctional and pathetic you are just because other nations have done bad shit.

This idea that you have to be 100% pure to be able to comment on others actions is unrealistic.

[–] kroy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

except, in a conversation about moralism, it's a bit like Mao, Stalin, and Hitler all sitting at a table and Mao and Stalin ganging up on Hitler and judging his actions as reprehensible

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, nah.

It’s a bit like a meeting between Mao, Stalin, Hitler, and John Curtin and John Curtin is saying all the other 3 are arseholes.

You’re utterly next level compared to us.

[–] kroy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

How’s that genocide of a million and change First Nations people treating you?

[–] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, but you should probably not still be perpetrating the actions you're pointing out as problematic yourself. Now I don't know exactly what country in Europe you're from, but I'm willing to bet money you can think, privately in your head if you wish, of something your nation is doing right this moment that would probably fall under the same definition as the acts you rightly accuse us of. Am I right?

[–] jcit878@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

what makes you think they are European? it's actually very obvious what country they are from based on the phrasing alone

[–] RavenFellBlade@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Judging by your vernacular, you're from the UK. I think the entire globe has something to say about the nightmares brought upon them by the British Empire. India and Pakistan in particular. Nothing the US has done comes even close to the outright chaos and bloodshed sown by the British in pursuit of global conquest. To quote the old PSA: We learned it by watching you. Except the US never quite had the stomach for for mass murder the way Britain has, so thankfully we've failed to live up to the legacy you've left.

In your own parlance: Slag off, mate.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

No, I’m from a country Britain invaded.

Keep finding excuses to help you sleep at night though.