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Donald Trump says 'nasty' Canada 'meant to be 51st state'
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I mean, yeah, every plot of land was "stolen" from another group throughout history. Even going back to before Homo sapiens, and most certainly between indigenous tribes.
Fortunately, Canada has acknowledged our history, and has been in the position to give back and support our first nations throughout the years.
More work needs to be done, for sure, but this doesn't diminish Canada in any way.
This colonizer horse shit ignores the fact that the people you stole the land from are still here. Where's the repairations?
Clearly you're not paying attention.
Has Canada started returning the land it stole?
I see you’re from Iowa so probably not familiar with a lot of our news. Here are a few links to recent land and governance transfers, and modern treaties in BC. As I live here these are the ones I know about, there are probably more in other provinces. While there is still so much to be done, these are excellent starts. Cheers
Haida Title Lands Agreement Agreement
CBC article
Nisga’a Final Agreement (2000) Agreement
More information
K’ómoks First Nation (In process) BC Govt page on the process
Final Treaty Document
K’omoks website
And when will they give it all back? And how about all the profits made from resource extraction? The minerals, trees, and oil were stolen too.
Let's ask, for example, @ininewcrow@lemmy.ca about how he feels about things, instead of an agitator. He has a lot of stories to tell.
There's something called the internet that can answer all your stupid questions. Start with, 'has the US given back any land they stole from Indigenous people?'
Actually, Yes
Yeah, so I have relatives with first nation blood, so I won't own your toxic comment.
Without knowing what you consider to be important, the Government of Canada has helped to fund quite a few projects to help our indigenous people: Healthcare, infrastructure, social assistance, clean water, trade, business and economic growth within their communities, etc.
Hundreds of millions are spent each year to ensure that we do what's right.
We've settled land claims (with more to come), and have worked to protect first nation culture and languages.
There's always more to be done, and as I mentioned, Canada acknowledges that this is still a work in progress.
1% Indian princess encourages those whining natives to shut up, they're listening!
A few government handouts don't make up for the centuries of superexploitation.
Land back or nothing.
Two questions:
Are you in Canada?
Are you/your people indigenous to land now within Canadian borders?
That’s never going to happen. Various bands are not getting back land that now host large cities and infrastructure. You can rail against that injustice until your death, which will accomplish nothing, or you can try to find a way forward.
And I say this as someone who believes that Canadian demographics are against you. The white guilt of colonization is quickly diluting into the pool of 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants who feel no guilt and have no connection to this questionable past. At that point nobody will care and your culture will be erased like so many others in the past.
I'm very curious about what you would like to see happen.
Do you want to deport all black people to Africa and all white people to Europe, or are you presuming that Indigenous would freely decide to host all of you on their land indefinitely?
I would like to see settler-colonial governments abolished, settler wealth redistributed, and for settlers to betray whiteness/colonialism and join indigenous resistance to ultimately live side-by-side with indigenous people as equals.
Black people are not settlers. It's not like their ancestors came here to invade and colonize the land and it's not like they have generational wealth from settler-colonialism.
Thanks for answering but this isn't very clear.I understand you don't want co-governance, you want Indigenous Sovereignty - but you also want to get to put limits on that sovereignty.
You seem to want to make Indigenous people give whites and other groups use of the land, water, and other resources.
But under that plan, Indigenous people would also have to be responsible for hosting them and all the labour of governance. They wouldn't get to evict them.
I wonder what your reaction is to any Indigenous people who would be against limitations to their sovereignty.
My views are shaped heavily by Fanon and the indigenous Algerian struggle against French colonialism.
During the fight for independence from France there were whites that betrayed France to aid the Algerian struggle: hiding Algerian resistance fighters or smuggling guns through check points or staying silent during questioning etc. etc. When white French descendants betrayed France to aid the indigenous resistance, they became Algerian.
When the US and Canada are abolished, it will require whites and other groups to betray whiteness and aid the indigenous struggle. When they do, there won't be a need to "make" indigenous people give whites and other groups use of the land, because many whites and and other groups will earn their place on the land by aiding the struggle. I'm sure there are individuals who truly do want to kill or expel all white people, but they don't really represent a significant bloc and aren't worth discussing seriously.
(It must be said, after Algerian independence the white French descendants mostly fled back to France because most of them didn't want to betray France to aid Algerian patriots. The same will likely happen in the US and Canada, the whites that refuse to aid in the struggle will flee to whatever European countries will take them because they will not want to live here anymore.)
Assuming that whites are entitled to "become" Indigenous through being an ally is incredibly problematic though.
I mean this gently but I think you need to learn about colonization a lot more broadly. Fanon is a product of his time. I'd encourage you to look at South Africa, India, Zimbabwe, and also pay some attention to contemporary Indigenous activism in settler majority countries where there is often an appetite for separate sovereignty.
Well I didn't say whites are entitled to become indigenous, I said they earn their place by joining the anticolonial struggle and materially betraying whiteness. It's not enough to just performatively be an ally, they need to actually sacrifice and put themselves at risk through active resistance and assistance.
They also never really earn their place until the struggle is done. Every white person has to continually betray whiteness, because of the material reality that they're more likely than anyone else in the struggle to be informants or undercover cops. I certainly recognize it's not as simple as being an "ally" and requires real material sacrifice.
In settler-majority countries specifically the dividing of whites against non-whites is an active project that continues to this day, it has to be maintained by constant moneyed and state intervention to elevate whites that are loyal to whiteness and suppress whites that betray it, and in the United States specifically they historically kill and imprison Black and Indigenous leaders that try to make multiracial coalitions.
But those are just my thoughts. I'm hardly an expert in the anticolonial struggle, though I'm not only influenced by Fanon. I'm also influenced by Huey P. Newton and Walter Rodney.
So. Got any books you recommend?
I left this comment of yours in my inbox for a long time, because I wasn't sure where to begin.
I think the best advice I can give you is to talk to actual people who are living anticolonialist struggle. There is no such thing as a "brown people seal of endorsement" that you can give white people, even if you find one in a book.
In cases where activists demand total exodus of white allies, you have to either unconditionally accept this, or else come to terms with the fact that your support of decolonializing, re-indigenization, and sovereignty is actually conditional on Indigenous agreeing with you.
That's some good longevity, Lou.
I don't know about lack of reparations. Where I live it is only the Indigenous groups that have massive amounts of federal and provincial money to spend. All sorts of fancy new buildings going up for housing and recreation and self-government.