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[-] RedPostItNote@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

I’m sorry. My grandpa taught me the only good Nazi is a dead Nazi. He was a smart dude

[-] AnjunaSouls@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I wouldn't disagree. But not every Republican is on board with or even aware of what's happening. As someone who's escaped a cult, it's hard to see through a smoke screen of propaganda, misinformation and dogma when you're surrounded by it. Getting us to fall into left vs right, black vs white etc camps and fight each other to the death is exactly what the rich elite (our actual enemies) want to happen. I'd recommend Andrew Callaghan's film "Dear Kelly" for a first hand look at what this looks like in action; how an otherwise innocuous, well meaning citizen can be brainwashed by far right propaganda and how quickly they can lose touch with reality - as well as how they can be brought back from that brink.

People are nuanced and groupthink is holding us back as a species. Hold the grand old party to task, and put on blast all those who have been profiting off of the suffering of others and leading the destruction of society. But don't lower yourselves to their level and paint everyone on the other side of the fence the same shade, or miss the nuances of how these people are being manipulated, and by whom.

The manipulators are the problem. Not the manipulated.

[-] RedPostItNote@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

I do agree they are sheep misled. But a penchant for being a Nazi does not a good citizen make.

This soft approach after the civil war is why we are here again.

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

This reminds me of the Myth of the Clean Wehrmacht. In short: No, not so many of them are victims and puppets.

There are some cases where people are pulled out of cults by exposure to outside opinions. Anyone among the Republicans that has frequently had that exposure, on some level (for instance, hearing arguments from Democratic senators prior to votes) agrees with and wants the destruction.

[-] ZEDtheRED@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Now we're talking.

[-] frostysauce@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Do you not think it's a little hyperbolic to claim that every single member of the Republican party is a Nazi deserving of only death?

I mean, sure, it feels great to sound like a tough guy on the Internet, but you're talking about tens of millions of Americans.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

I understand that you feel the conclusion is disturbing. Can you elaborate on what part of their reasoning is confusing?

[-] frostysauce@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

I suppose the part that leads to mass murder.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

Do you think it's murder to kill a Nazi?

[-] frostysauce@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

I believe it is justified. But I'm not going to dignify the question of "is it murder to kill a Nazi" with an answer.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

But you're the one calling it murder.

[-] frostysauce@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago
[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago
  1. So you're not disagreeing that they're Nazis.

  2. And you don't disagree that killing them is justified.

  3. But you're unwilling to dignify the question you just asked with an answer.

So absent an honest answer, it looks like you're bringing up legal semantics to make killing Nazis sound bad.

[-] frostysauce@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

jfc. I don't have time for this bullshit. Have a nice day.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago

Bullshit like asking a question you wouldn't answer yourself? Or bullshit like saying you "don't have time" once it's clear you're arguing in bad faith?

[-] frostysauce@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Reread the first comment of mine you responded to and ask yourself, "What is my goal here, exactly?" You're pulling shit out of your ass and putting words in my mouth to win some imaginary Internet argument that started with me saying that it's hyperbolic to claim that every single Republican in America, tens of millions of people, is a literal Nazi deserving of death.

If you think I'm arguing in bad faith you need to (and trust me, I hate this phrase as much as you probably do) touch grass. If you're just arguing for arguments sake you also need to touch *some fucking grass.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago

Oh look, you found time!

[-] RedPostItNote@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I 100% believe in what I said and so do the mass majority of Americans.

[-] frostysauce@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

The mass majority of Americans absolutely do not believe in putting to death every Republican.

[-] RedPostItNote@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I said Nazis. You said republicans.

That’s a confession

[-] frostysauce@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Read up. The person you responded to was warning against celebrating the death of all Republicans. You responded with something about your grandfather taught you the only good Nazi is a dead Nazi. YOU are the one that first equated Republicans with Nazis.

Also, I'm a leftist, you tool.

[-] RedPostItNote@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Man, when people can’t tell the difference that’s bad for them isn’t it

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