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Even if the tariffs were to be reversed tomorrow, one wine business leader said, it'll take "at least a year, if not longer, for my industry to recover.”

Canada’s break from American-made wine and the Trump administration’s global tariffs have compounded the struggles of the United States’ already-stressed wine industry to the point that it may be difficult for much of it “to come back from,” an American wine organization leader told NBC News. 

“Canada is the single most important export market for U.S. wines with retail sales in excess of $1.1 billion annually,” Robert Koch, the California Wine Institute’s president and CEO, said in a statement. 

Last month Canada united to boycott American wines — taking all U.S.-made vino and alcohol off its liquor and wine store shelves and out of restaurants across the country — as an aggressive retaliatory response to Trump’s tariffs on its political ally north of the border.

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[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

Yes, people do get "weird" when you literally call them "evil".

"I don't like the way that drinking alcohol is seen as a neccessary component of socialising in our society." <-- Completely reasonable statement, even as someone who drinks I agree wholeheartedly. North America in particular has a serious problem with a lack of third spaces that aren't bars or other places that serve alcohol.

"Alcohol is evil" <-- Absolutely deranged thing to say, deserves to be down voted into oblivion. I cannot even begin to imagine what would possess someone to willingly share this thought with the universe.

[-] joshchandra@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I did not call people evil but the substance, and my stance has nothing to do with socializing (which is fine) but rather everything to do with the pain of drunk driving, abuse, addiction, permanent bodily harm, psychological scarring, and death that are all results of alcohol intake. Why play with fire? Let's look at other drugs:

"According to the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, alcohol causes 88,000 (62,000 men and 26,000 women) deaths every year. The National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism tells us alcohol shortened the lifespan of those 88,000 by 30 years. That makes alcohol the third leading preventable cause of death in the U.S. All other drugs combined cause approximately 30,000 deaths annually." - https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-addiction/201601/which-is-more-dangerous-alcohol-or-drugs

I don't even understand why I'm conducting this research right now; why are you disagreeing? Arguing against science is like saying the damage from leaded gasoline was all fine. That article was from 2016, so let's find something more recent for relevance:

"A new study estimates that over their lifetime, more than a third of U.S. adults or 113 million people are harmed from someone else’s drinking while 46 million experience harms from someone else’s drug use. Among study respondents, 34.2% experienced secondhand harms from alcohol, 5.5% from cannabis, 7.6% from opioids, and 8.3% from other drugs." - https://www.phi.org/press/new-study-alcohol-and-drug-use-cause-significant-harms-that-go-beyond-the-individual/

That was just from Nov. 2024. I hope I don't have to go on. There are so many incredible and safer ways to have fun (and even ones that are as wild or wilder, when it comes to certain mind-altering substances). /c/stopdrinking exists for a reason, and I'm not gonna minimize their struggle in light of those ratios above.

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