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I heard something to do with Nitrogen and …cow farts(?) I am really unsure of this and would like to learn more.

Answer -

4 Parts

  • Ethical reason for consuming animals
  • Methane produced by cows are a harmful greenhouse gas which is contributing to our current climate crisis
  • Health Reasons - there is convincing evidence that processed meats cause cancer
  • it takes a lot more calories of plant food to produce the calories we would consume from the meat.

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[–] 4lan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a lot of rationalization with no facts to back it up.

I'm getting a "well ackchually" vibe from your comment. If I put a mouse on the ground next to a flower and told you to stomp one of them to death, You would be comfortable with either option equally?

Yes plants respond to negative stimuli, that doesn't imply suffering on the level of a conscious being.

You're making a lot of assumptions about my beliefs in your comment. I do not believe any animal has more right to life than any other animal. With that said if you are in the woods trying to survive like our ancestors then your biological needs take priority, you can't survive on plants in winter. The thing is that is not our reality. We are wolfing down red meat giving ourselves colon cancer needlessly. Trading suffering for joy, not suffering for survival

[–] ragusa@feddit.dk -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s a lot of rationalization with no facts to back it up.

I, honestly, have no idea what you are talking about. Which facts would you find relevant in a philosophical discussion on morality?

I’m getting a “well ackchually” vibe from your comment.

I am sorry you feel that way, that was not my intention.

If I put a mouse on the ground next to a flower and told you to stomp one of them to death, You would be comfortable with either option equally?

Honestly I find this example a little comical because I think most people would definitely choose to rid themselves of the pest and keep their pretty flower. However, I do understand your sentiment. I don't think my personal views really matter, but I have some rough hierarchy of living organism ordering how highly I value their interests. For example, I think a human is more important than a mouse to me, so I would rather kill a mouse than a human, if I had to choose. Similarly, I think a hare is more important than a flower, so I would rather kill a flower than a hare.

You’re making a lot of assumptions about my beliefs in your comment.

I am sorry, I have incorrectly conflated your comment with that of the original.

I do not believe any animal has more right to life than any other animal. With that said if you are in the woods trying to survive like our ancestors then your biological needs take priority, you can’t survive on plants in winter.

These to statements are completely contradictory. You are more important than other animals, thus you sacrifice them for you own survival. If you have no more "right" to survival than a hare, how is it ethical to kill it to ensure your own survival?

[–] 4lan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Alright, we are talking right past each other. Have a good one