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[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People: Can we have competitive with china [trains]?

Governments: we have Competitive with china at home.

Competitive with china at home: Low wages and no labor rights.

[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Don't forget surveillance and erasure of minorities!

[–] iopq@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

China: working from 9 to 9 six days a week, with lower wages

[–] hellishharlot@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And there are some Americans working similarly because they have rent to pay

[–] iopq@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you're saying they are getting paid for overtime

[–] kittenspronkles@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably working 2 jobs without OT

[–] iopq@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Chinese only get one salary and still expected to work that much

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wouldn't consider US min wage with US prices a whole salary.

[–] iopq@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

In 2021, 1.4% of workers in the United States were paid hourly rates at or below the official minimum wage. The percentage of hourly paid workers earning the prevailing federal minimum wage or less declined from 1.9% in 2019 to 1.5% in 2020, which remains well below the percentage of 13.4 recorded in 1979. Around 44.3 percent of wage and salary workers paid hourly rates at or below the federal minimum wage were aged between 16 to 24 years.

https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2020/home.htm

[–] hellishharlot@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the US it's usually 2 part time jobs or 1 ft and 1 or or 1 ft and gigs. Regardless the idea isn't that they make enough with one job and get spending money from the other. It's basically that you need to make as much as the top 15% of earners in the US to be ok in most areas. So we work as hard as we can to survive

[–] iopq@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Big cities like Beijing or Shanghai in China are much worse, lower wages and rents north of $1000 and salaries of about $1350

Workers cram into one apartment just to have a place to sleep

[–] hellishharlot@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You must not have ever seen a couple of folks making min wage renting a room just to survive. America may not be quite at that disparity level but it is rapidly approaching

[–] iopq@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Couple of folks? There are like a dozen workers bunking in Beijing apartments because it's just not affordable