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[–] grue@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

someone like Brendan Eich who should know better turn to the dark side

LOL, he inflicted Javascript upon the world. He never knew better and was always on the dark side.

[–] arc@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

JavaScript is a victim of its own popularity. It was originally meant to be scripting glue to do little actions in the browser while the real work was done in Java (LiveConnect) apps. But Java got jettisoned, JavaScript became more important and became the thing we love and hate today.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

JavaScript is a victim of its own popularity.

No, that's not the issue. If Javascript were well-designed we wouldn't hate it, but it wasn't.

[–] Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most of the examples listed there are issues that don't affect real applications. It's just garbage code, so the output ends up being garbage too. Programmers don't write code like that, unless they are doing it as a joke. A few of those examples can be real issues sometimes, but they are not that big of a deal to an experienced JavaScript programmer.

It's an imperfect language like any other.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

but they are not that big of a deal to an experienced JavaScript programmer.

A well-designed language wouldn't require "experience" for stupid gotchas like these to not be that big of a deal in the first place.

After all, I'm sure a sufficiently "experienced programmer" could adapt to anything up to and including fucking Malbolge if necessary, but that doesn't mean it's equal to a language that's actually good.

Differences in quality between languages are real, and Javascript is closer to the bad end of that spectrum.