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Trump’s bid to end birthright citizenship heads to the Supreme Court
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Why do you care about illegal immigrants? My nation had a higher influx of refugees and their ratio to local citizens was also higher than USA, so, why do you care about illegal immigrants?
It's mostly racism in the case of the US.
The US wants to preserve its exceptionalism, and thus doesn't want to get "flooded with a wave of normal people from other countries".
They worry it would dilute their exceptionalism.
Apart from that, other countries can have other reasons to be against immigration. I live in Europe, and for me it's mostly economic concerns: I'm thinking that immigrants make the economic situation of the people living in this country worse, because they take jobs and occupy resources such as housing. It's not racism, just economic concern.
It's so funny that Mr. "Enlightened" European's take on immigration being bad is verbatim right-wing American politician talking points. You're so much better than those racist Americans because you definitely only don't want brown people because of FACTS and LOGIC.
Lol sounds like racism covered in a new coat of paint.
how about you fucking learn to read my point? I was explaining it two minutes ago.
Look, i'm allowed to have an opinion, and what i said did not break any laws or directly attack any individual or group of people.
You, on the other hand, are being emotional, and on top of that, rude. I don't accept that. If you have something to say, you have to learn to say it properly. Calling others "not worth the air they breathe" is a serious insult and you should reconsider the way you argue with people.
Apart from that, i think we need to take a stance where we're actually discussing points, including their effects and consequences, instead of falling back to a mud-throwing insult-battle. I'm trying to bring up fair and valid points, you're insulting. I think i should be taking a stance here.
You’re also allowed to fuck off.
You're wrong in assuming i'm not fighting against the rich. I am a vocal proponent of wealth tax, and dedicate a lot of effort towards that goal.
I assume you should have taken the time to learn one thing about me or two before forming an assessment about my character.
Why does your nation having more refugees etc matter?
Illegal immigration is wrong. If you want to live in another country, follow the rules and do it the right way.
What if "the right way" is purposely blocked or made impossible?
A lot of American history has clear demonstration of using the letter of the law to impede people trying to live their life.
Georgia city clerk: "Oh sorry, we need you to bring your land ownership forms. Don't own land? Well, this office is closed for lunch, have a good day".
Then you don’t get to go and live in that country.
I get that it's legally wrong, but do you think it's ethically wrong?
What if someone thinks the laws and systems in place aren't morally perfect?
I don’t think it’s ethically wrong to have migration policies in place, no. If we didn’t it would easily enable certain countries with gigantic populations to essentially take over the world.
I don’t see anything immoral or unethical about the legal immigration system in the USA for example, do you?
What certain countries? And are you alleging there is a coordinated "take over"?
No, I specifically said that if there were no immigration laws then there could be. China for one would absolutely start taking over countries with sheer number of people.
Fascinating! What other countries do you think would start taking over places without immigration laws?