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[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

This is why I'm a big fan of Lemmy and federated social media. It removes the monetization incentive, and it's obscure enough to barely be targeted by bots (so far). The remaining piece that is still an issue, in my opinion, is that we're still engulfed in the more modern internet culture of rage-bait, walling ourselves into our echo chambers, and occasionally seeing heavy-handed moderation.

I'll take two wins out of three any day though.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

We need to bring back meta-moderation, kind of like Slashdot had.

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I didn't use Slashdot. How was it handled there?

[-] MinervasOwl@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 year ago

I'll take forum lords ruling too strictly over their little fiefdoms over the kind of stuff that happens on large platforms wrt moderation.

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

modern internet culture of rage-bait, walling ourselves into our echo chambers, and occasionally seeing heavy-handed moderation.

I was around for usenet and those have all always been a thing. That's just how people are. They just don't call it "flaming" any more.

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Oh totally, but I was thinking less about edgy trolls and more like, rage-bait headlines and rants intended to keep you engaged with a platform because you're mad. Or, for example, floods of political posts with all the nuance of a negative daytime TV campaign ad (you know, with the deep voice, storm clouds, and spooky music).

I remember in the early days of the internet, that type of content was around, but still largely relegated to talk radio or email forwards. Now it's mainstream and some of the most popular content on every major social media site. It's disappointing and feels inauthentic, like your favorite hang-out spots have slowly filled up with solicitors handing out flyers.

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, corporations getting involved to monetize those things for engagement is new. Before it was for the sheer joy of arguing with/pissing off people. That still exists as well, of course.

[-] mad_lentil@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And because we aren't chasing profit, mass adoption, or clout here, we can get increasingly local and granular with our instances, and increasingly rigorous about who we let in. Since what we're chasing is real community, we have nothing to sell out for. And even if some instances do flip over to corpos, we can just defederate and welcome the inevitable influx of departing users.

The thing you really have to look out for in the future is "premium" instances or forks of Lemmy which are paywalled, and eventually locked down to a single instance. It just becomes the next Twitter. It's unlikely, but something to be wary of once the rest of the open internet is picked clean.

Shame that capital is without a doubt mining our genuine public communications for their wage depressing plagiarism machines, because it's not like you can get that from the old place anymore.

[-] Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

…it's obscure enough to barely be targeted by bots (so far).

This is what concerns me. If the fediverse ever catches on to the point where it's worth it for bad actors to be running bots, not only will instances have to restrict signups, but also defederate from those that don't (kinda like how beehaw does it).

[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

obscure enough to barely be targeted by bots

Nicole is a trailblazer.

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