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Source of news: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/7/ice-launches-military-style-raids-in-los-angeles-what-we-know

This is Stephen Miller's (White House Deputy Chief) response to Karen Bass (Los Angeles Mayor).

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[-] tonytins@pawb.social 218 points 1 year ago

So much for "state's rights."

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 148 points 1 year ago

Fascists are never to be taken seriously when they say that they're very worried about protecting anything.

[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

Another 5-10 years in power and they'll legalize conversion therapy and honor killings against gay and trans kids and call it "parental rights".

[-] toomanypancakes@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

I will be shocked if it takes that long.

[-] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

It’ll be anyone with it a red hat on being chased down by then. Trump will be a full vegetable if not dead by then, and the Vance/Miller/Heritage crowd will have found a way to take absolute power. Otherwise the whole thing will collapse and we might have a shot at reclaiming the country.

[-] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

You have a shot now, you’re just not taking it.

[-] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

What kinda shot?

Me against a police force? We haven’t even got left wing militias out there, let alone the size it would take for a coup.

[-] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

Cool, well you just take a seat and relax. You’ve clearly done everything you can. Someone will be along to save you any day now, I’m sure.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 year ago

Time for the Sartre quote:

Never believe that ~~anti-Semites~~ fascists are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The ~~anti-Semites~~ fascists have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past."

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 1 year ago

They're all about protecting their own wealth and their own "supremacy."

[-] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Irony & Stephen being an arch-ghoul notwithstanding, federal law does supercede state law (Art 6 Sec 2). Like, Nebraska couldn't just legalize murder. They could stop enforcing that law, but it'd still be illegal and the federal gov't could take action.

federal law does supercede state law (Art 6 Sec 2)

Only to the extent that the Federal law is constitutional (ie within its powers) and valid

[-] Vorticity@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

And to the extent that they are actually following the federal law, regardless of its constitutionality.

[-] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

That's a fair point. But it would need to be argued in the courts.

Mmm, maybe, I'm pretty sure there's pretty solid case law precedent on this. It's been heavily litigated over the centuries.

The parameters around what is within the jurisdiction of the US Federal govt is pretty clear. Fundamentally Article I, Section 8 of US Constitution although there's a few other loose ends (implied powers).

"The enumerated powers listed in Article One include both exclusive federal powers, as well as concurrent powers that are shared with the states, and all of those powers are to be contrasted with reserved powers that only the states possess"

[-] ShoeThrower@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

And "constitutionality" is defined by the Supreme Court...

Doh!

[-] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, the courts being captured is possibly the biggest problem facing the US right now. They're what makes all the bad stuff the current regime is doing possible.

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