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[-] Iceman@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The problem is that Germans now just look generally pro-genocidal.

[-] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

This is a classic problem of going into one ditch, then oversteering and hitting the opposite ditch.

Germany has worked so hard on "The Holocaust was terrible, we will forever support the Jews to make up for it" that they're now supporting a genocidal Jewish state.

My point is that I understand why this is hard for them. For them to oppose Israel invokes some associations that they really want to keep far away. However, now, supporting Israel invokes the same associations. This puts them in a kind of catch-22 situation, where no matter what they do, they're invoking associations to the Nazis.

To be clear: I think the only right thing to do now is to oppose Israel. I just understand why that is exceptionally hard for Germany.

[-] Iceman@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Well put! It's a shame that they put all focus on supporting their primary victim and so little on never again allowing their actions. Their word would weigh heavy thou if they ever stepped on that land mine.

[-] ofchesoneofthose@lemmings.world -2 points 1 year ago

Ah yes it must be very hard for them not to send weapons to a genocider.

Imagine them saying no to that sweet weapon deal money.

[-] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You're wilfully ignoring the historical context that makes it hard for Germany to oppose Israel. By doing so, you're not helping anyone.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

If that were the reason, Germany would also have trouble opposing Russia. Yet they don't.

[-] ofchesoneofthose@lemmings.world -2 points 1 year ago

The only historical context who matter is how much money they make selling weapons to Israel.

If they grisly cared about the Holocaust the gipsies wouldn't still be living off the street of berlin

[-] ofchesoneofthose@lemmings.world -3 points 1 year ago

I don't care about your historical context asshole.

But hey maybe the ICC judge will be more understanding.

[-] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don't you see that if you want to effect change, it helps to understand why Germany is doing what they're doing now?

I have no idea what brings the ICC into this, I'm not aware of cases against any other country than Isreal here.

By the way, how does trying to understand why people are doing what they do make me an asshole? I'm trying to be civil here, and I think you're being very impolite.

[-] ofchesoneofthose@lemmings.world -1 points 1 year ago

No ICC case yet. They're complicit in a genocide

[-] ofchesoneofthose@lemmings.world -3 points 1 year ago

You call it hystorical context, I call it excuses.

Again, they make money out of selling weapons and munitions. It's all the understanding you need. Follow the money.

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