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Transcription: An image of a man slightly hunched over, with one hand pressed on his lower back. The text says "I'M HERE, I'M QUEER, AND MY JOINT PAIN IS MODERATE TO SEVERE"

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[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bruh, joint pain means you're out of weed.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

That’s actually a terrible idea, as it doesn’t treat the underlying cause. There’s a reason it’s not the first line treatment for pain.

Edit: yes I get the double entrendre pun.

[–] Alto@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Joke went so far over your head you didn't have a chance at catching it

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Other pain management doesn't treat the underlying cause either and the reason for cannabis to not be the first line treatment is much more often legal/political than medical.

It's been proven in clinical trials to be one of the most effective types of pain management and much less addictive and otherwise harmful than opiates, but that doesn't seem to do anything about the preconceived notions of regressive people including most politicians.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doctor here, that’s false. Glaucoma isn’t just about managing pain but reducing the intraocular pressure that is causing the pain; treating pain alone will lead to vision damage and eventual blindness. That’s why doctors still advise eye drops for treatment over marijuana even in countries where marijuana is legal.

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wasn't talking about glaucoma, though, that's another comment thread on this post.

I was talking about cannabis for pain relief in particular as well as the benefits of pain management in general..

[–] Alto@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think comments are a bit fucked up in this thread. I've had a couple replies that clearly weren't meant for me

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 year ago

Ah, that would explain it! Thanks for pointing it out 🙂

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You like totally missed the joke, but that's okay.

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well, do you want to explain the joke? Not everyone is deep into movies or stoner culture or wherever this joke comes from.

[–] Alto@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] Knusper@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

Ah, thanks. I'm normally good with terrible jokes, but somehow that one flew under my radar.

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Reddit is seen as pretty far above average in terms of amount of users on the spectrum, but Lemmy must be like 10 times that concentration.

[–] Morcyphr@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

Is that supposed to make it funny? And the "I'm queer" just cuz?

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Weed is a known useful treatment for glaucoma, a disorder of sorts that causes tunnel vision.

[–] MrMamiya@feddit.de -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Tell me you’ve either never smoked or recently quit without telling me.

[–] gabe@literature.cafe 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Pain is a signal that something is wrong with your body, so you should be ideally figuring out why something is wrong instead of ignoring it if it's consistent.

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 2 points 1 year ago

And while you're figuring it out, involuntarily tensing up and favoring other limbs because of pain can exacerbate the problem or cause new ones.

Just because the ideal is solving the underlying issues doesn't mean that pain management while you do that isn't beneficial to prevent not just discomfort but also further damage.

[–] MrMamiya@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks, I’ll try it.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Meanwhile I've got two friends with glaucoma, where weed is one of the best solutions to delay it.

Throw me another downvote will ya?

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any eye doctor will tell you that eye drops are superior than marijuana for treating glaucoma. Marijuana is a painkiller but doesn’t help as well with the elevated intraocular pressure that damages your vision. Anyone who wants to pretend that marijuana is one of the best solutions is lying. Recreational marijuana is already legal in many places, you don’t have to pretend to care about medical excuses anymore.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, guess what? I literally know two people with glaucoma. It's not a painkiller at all, it just helps delay the effects.

They literally tell me there's no pain either way, they're just trying to preserve their eyesight as long as they can.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

And I had glaucoma AND went to medical school. Your anecdote is useless and false.

it just helps delay the effects.

No it doesn’t. Glaucoma causes progressive vision loss starting with peripheral vision and spreading to central vision, because the pressure damages retinal cells. Marijuana does nothing to delay that in any meaningful way; you just go blind almost as fast with less pain.

American Academy of Ophthalmology: Does Marijuana Help Treat Glaucoma or Other Eye Conditions?

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I absolutely never said I had glaucoma, so please STFU. Please learn how to read words before attempting to quote them.

I said I have two friends with glaucoma, and they claim no pain. They say it's helping extend their time with what vision they do have..

https://www.nei.nih.gov/learn-about-eye-health/eye-conditions-and-diseases/glaucoma

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Your “friends” are anecdotes. Go back and read what I said more carefully next time.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also, how can you claim you had glaucoma if it's a progressive disorder/disease?

If it has no cure, then you didn't had it, that's past tense. If you had glaucoma, you still have it, only in a more advanced stage.

I'm sorry for you my friend, but you don't need to spread false information about glaucoma. So far there's no reversing glaucoma, so there's no such thing as "I had glaucoma"...

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nice that you’re talking down to a doctor and still wrong. You belong on the confidentlyIncorrect Lemmy. And FYI I eventually had surgery to correct it; there are laser treatments and surgical peripheral iridectomy options and not just pharmacologic therapies. You’ve been wrong every step of the way here, want to keep digging?

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Interesting. Well I stand corrected then.

I guess these procedures are well out of the affordable range for the average ape though, marijuana happens to be a whole lot cheaper.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You need to read the link I posted on my reply to you, marijuana may be cheaper but it won’t stop the vision damage. It’s like getting drunk instead of dealing with an injury, also “cheaper” in the short run.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay. But which one is covered by insurance?..

Depends on the state.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Timolol eye drops are $10 at CVS pharmacy, $30 without a discount card. If that’s too expensive and you’d rather go blind than spend it, you have bigger problems than I can help with.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, I find myself learning something today. I just got done watching a tutorial video which is apparently meant to teach half blind people how to properly apply their own eye drops.

Seems they're oblivious to the fact they're literally telling half blind people to carefully observe what they're doing, instead of just asking a family member or roommate that can see better to apply the drops for them.

Asking the blind to treat their own eyes? Brilliant! /s