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[–] birdcat@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You're confusing me a bit too tbh.

seeing this sort of thing

What sort of thing?

since the federation

I checked hexbear before the federation and found it to be mostly an awfully friendly and kinda cool place, so I was excited. But now I see so many paranoid hexbear users talking about "the federation" as if it were some kind of historical event with great significance; almost like how Palestinians talk about the Nakba. Why is that?

Showing that China is doing similar things to the US doesn’t seem like a strong argument if the thing the US is doing (in this case indefinite detention without trial in a horrible prison) is bad.

I don't really understand what you mean. Even the best liberal super-democracy (let's say Switzerland) will detain you if they suspect that you have given out state secrets to foreign countries. Literally every country will. That was kinda the point of my comment.

Secondly, I was not trying to show anything; I was just wondering what those people were missing during their (not indefinite) imprisonment. They're all free now, including the ones with data missing. And I didn't research the reasons for their imprisonment, use a search engine if you want to know more.

Is the idea that post-federation there’s users who don’t view the US as doing bad things?

You know that there have always been and that there always will be users with that view, so why even ask that question; and why ask it with "post-federation"? it honestly gives the impression you're in a cult, no offense.

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Re: hexbear stalking about “the federation” in heavy tones.

we’ve been bitten by linking up with other communities before, (r/vegancirclejerk) and the moment before federation we were preemptively defederated from lemmy.world

Quiet shire no more, now there are liberals at the gates and ominous tidings (I’m joking, but there’s change in the air is what I mean)

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To be honest, I think .world kind of long-term fucked themselves on that one. They were one of the only instances big enough to act as any kind of counterweight to our posting power, and by sealing themselves off from us, and because our lack of downvotes results in more and higher rated comments, they've pretty much ceded rhetorical dominance of much of the rest of the verse to us and our lemmygrad friends.

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But now I see so many paranoid hexbear users talking about "the federation" as if it were some kind of historical event with great significance; almost like how Palestinians talk about the Nakba. Why is that?

It's tongue in cheek, mocking the hysterical libs who can't process actually sharing an online space with leftists.

[–] birdcat@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, I hope it is! But even if it is, I think there are much better ways to approach that. But yea, what happened to lemmy.world, is indeed super unfortunate.

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What happened to Lemmy.world?

[–] birdcat@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What you're talking about ... takeover by hysterical and authoritarian libs.

And btw, I'm not talking about a "critical mass takeover" it's from the admin; sort the comments by top to see the disagreement.

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah OK. Yeah that's unfortunate, but I suppose all the reddit refugees who wanted another reddit have to go somewhere.

[–] birdcat@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yea, but this is what will bring failure over the whole idea of "fediverse". so just enjoy while it lasts and stop building cultlike echo chambers.

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Hey, I don't disagree.