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I can't believe that at this point anyone actually believes that the Orange Jackass will ever suffer any actual punishment.
This is legit why people started to believe in Hell- to think there is some kind of justice in the world even if there doesn't seem to be any. Before the late BCs, most people in the Mediterranean didn't believe in Hell, at least as a place of eternal torment for the wicked. They believed in an afterlife that was pretty bleak, but everyone went there. The ancient Greeks and certain Jewish sects began to imagine separate portions of the shared afterlife for particularly evil of righteous people to be punished or rewarded in after death. For the Greeks, these were Tartarus and Elysium, and for the Jewish sects these were Gehenna and Paradise. These concepts arose, particularly within Judaism, as a way to answer the question "why do good things happen to bad people, and why do bad things happen to good people?" And the answer was that the good would be rewarded and the evil tormented in the end, even if things look bad in this life. These ideas were floating around in the time and place Christianity arose, and became incorporated into it.
This, and monotheism. You can't have an omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent deity if there's observable evil in the world unless "it's all part of God's plan," and/or "people reap what they sow"
Well, one can, it just wasn’t a good fit for the Abrahamic set.
Does Zoroastrianism not figure into this somewhere? It's generally considered an influence on Judaism that is older than Judaism & ancient Greek tradition. They also have an idea of divine justice in the afterlife with concepts roughly corresponding to heaven, purgatory, hell.
Neither Zoroastrianism nor Judaism consider "hell" a place of eternal torment, more a place where spirits confront their actions to cleanse & purify themselves before reuniting with the divine.
My comment about The Hague is referring to the NATO summit in The Netherlands happening today and tomorrow.
Otherwise, I expect he’ll fuck off to a non-extradition Middle Eastern country after his presidency. He’s building enough resorts to have several options.
Yeah the Trump family has made a billion dollars every month that he’s been president.
Maybe he’ll just live on this billion dollar private island his family bought
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/24/trump-family-kushner-undeveloped-island-mediterranean-sazan-albania
He'll live in a private country his family bought. He's the president of it right now.
Now typically, I’m against open-air above-ground nuclear tests, but I would make an exception in this case
Why nuclear, though? That ruins the land for everyone, and it's really just the infestation that needs solving. Don't burn your house down for termites — unless it's literally just termites holding together? 🤢
The island filled with unexploded ordinance sounds like a great place for them actually. I like this idea
He's an 80 year old man in increasingly poor health. Wherever he goes after his presidency, if he even makes it that long, he won't be able to enjoy his life the way he wants to. I find some small measure of comfort in that thought.
He is minting his own currency, which he is using as a vehicle to personally raise billions of dollars, while holding an office in the public trust. His life after the Presidency (assuming he relinquishes it on time in the first place) will be far better than the lives of the people his goons have kidnapped.
That doesn't mean he'll get to do what he wants. He loves playing golf and sexually assaulting women. Soon enough he won't be able to force his body to do either of those things. Of course he'll live better than most but he still can't bully old age and that's a fact that I look forward to watching him confront.
He’s always been able to afford good enough lawyers to delay any proceedings for years, and he can’t have very many left. Given his open grift and straightforward bribes, monetizing the office, I image he’s finally the billionaire he always claimed to be, so he can afford it
Truth social going public through that shell company made him a billionaire on paper. If he gets to the point where he's allowed to sell, he could become a legit actual billionaire.
Only really stupid people or money launderers would buy that stock because the moment that fat cunt dies (soon, and painful, hopefully) that app will be a ghost town.
But he also has a personal 747, all that meme coin, huge profit on sneakers, etc
And don’t forget the superPAC money covering legal and other personal expenses
I mean, that 747 has to have more in maintenance paid than it's worth, legal expenses covered don't increase wealth, and did he really sell that many of those sneakers?
I think he has been lying about being a billionaire forever, but what I've seen from the (over)valuation of his truth shares it definitely gets him there.
it’s useful to constantly say it… if everyone just shrugs and says “exactly what we thought”, it’s inevitable. stay angry, keep everyone else angry, keep reality that there will be consequences because otherwise the only sure thing is there will be no consequences
the only people that gain by repeating that it’s unlikely that there will be consequences is the people doing horrible things