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[–] Flinch@hexbear.net 77 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Man leading country with the largest homeless population in the world says country which eliminated extreme poverty within its borders is about to collapse, of course this is true and should be taken seriously very-intelligent

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] saltedFish@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago

Stop quoting western imperialist sources, china has the least homelessness in the universe

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Buddy, you realize you're quoting a source from 2011? Over the past decade GDP/capita in China has more than doubled and the number of people living below the poverty line has dropped from 100 million to less than 1 million.

Do people not check facts anymore? Jesus fucking Christ man. It's like y'all never learned the basic scientific process.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do people not check facts anymore?

Likewise, do people not cite sources for their own claims?

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Lemminary@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Heard of the burden of proof? Lead by example and Google it first

Besides, providing sources isn't just to support your ideas, but for people to evaluate the quality of your info and gauge your integrity. 101 stuff, but go on lecturing about the scientific process while practicing none of it yourself.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So... You have no counterargument, no source for your 2015 claim, and nothing of value to contribute? Carry on.

You're one of the biggest failures of democracy: democracy assumes people discuss in good faith. Meanwhile, you use decades-old data to provide misinformation while pretending to be informed and follow it up with uncited claims... Because, reasons?

Here, I'll help you Google:

[GDP per capita] https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/china/gdp-per-capita

[Poverty rates] https://openknowledge.worldbank.org/bitstream/handle/10986/37727/9781464818776.pdf?sequence=4&isAllowed=y

[Link between poverty and homelessness] https://pure.hw.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/7467281/Homelessness_Poverty_FullReport.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiE9fGM8NeAAxXcgv0HHdvWArIQFnoECBgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1BQARSj9oJ_XIjT4rz1cu_

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You’re one of the biggest failures of democracy

Where do you think I live?? xDDD

Here, I’ll help you Google:

Help me?? lmao Dude, that's your fucking homework. It's late and half-assed so I'll give you a C. Nice try throwing around a 100+ page PDFs around like that means anything. You give a quote with a page number, Mr Scientific Method dude.

Now go forth practicing what you learned today instead of being a giant hypocrite, little grasshopper.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

Have you never learned about primary sources? No competent scientific reference format asks for pages except for books (of which these aren't) and papers within conference proceedings (of which these also aren't).

Still waiting for my 2015 source...

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Buddy, I'm talking homelessness specifically, not just poverty. Show me proof China's reduced homelessness significatly. Because the most recent figure I could find was 2015... where there was an additional 500,000 homeless people from 2011, largely due to exploited migrant labor.