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"And they have the audacity to try to brand this as Christian. What does that word even mean to them? Wearing a necklace?" AOC added

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC) again slammed Republicans for supporting Donald Trump's "big, beautiful" bill as the initiative gets closer to passing in the Lower House.

The lawmaker wrote the post while responding to an article by the New York Times, which detailed that a "conga line of angsty Republican lawmakers filed through the West Wing on Wednesday, hemming and hawing about the" bill only to walk out with "signed merchandise, photos in the Oval Office and, by some accounts, a newfound appreciation for the bill."

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[-] 3abas@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I invite you to reflect on the words I'm saying instead of just focusing on the high you're getting from what you perceive as owning me or whatever.

Your responses and this baseless rejection of my identity is so aggressive and weird that it's not triggering any emotional response in me, I'm just confused.

I don't think I said anything to justify your hostility, I even agreed with your irrelevant point.

[-] madlian@lemmy.cafe 0 points 1 year ago

I’ll take my words back when you start complaining about all of the other countries too.

[-] 3abas@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Why do you want me to complain about other countries in a thread specifically about US domestic politics?

That's so weird.

All of the countries are guilty, especially the Arab puppet rulers, starting with the tomato king Abdullah of Jordan and khara Sisi of Egypt who allow the transport of commercial goods to Israel while blocking aid to Gaza and intercepting Iranian rockets on the heads of Jordanians. None of that is relevant when discussing American politics.

[-] madlian@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean anywhere. Let’s see that comment history start getting real and less ML

[-] 3abas@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This account is 3 days old, I barely have any comments. This is so stupid I'm not sure how to respond.

In a thread about domestic politics in the US, I made the claim that Democrats fully backed a genocide, and you're still going on about me not talking about other countries. Are you dense, or a Zionist pos trying to detail the conversation?

It's just weird. You're just weird.

[-] madlian@lemmy.cafe -1 points 1 year ago

Let’s go look at your previous account then. What’s the username?

[-] 3abas@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

So I made an argument about US domestic policy and somehow I need to prove to you that I have another account where I criticize other countries for the genocide of my people before you'll accept that you're being a super weird ZioNazi right now?

[-] madlian@lemmy.cafe -1 points 1 year ago

You can use names like ZioNazi all you want, but we both know it’s not true.

You, however, don’t care about Palestinians. You care about REEEEEEE and your dopamine, not what’s actually going on and who else to blame.

[-] 3abas@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

For the record, I see futility in arguing with a (possibly a bot) disingenuous asshole. I'm responding for posterity so maybe others passing by can see this conversation and judge for themselves.

I am Palestinian, and I'm living in America speaking not my native tongue and arguing with an asshole who in response to me saying "Democrats backed a genocide" wrote all the awful shit you did. You're a bad person.

[-] madlian@lemmy.cafe 0 points 1 year ago

You continue to ignore that what I’m saying is right: you only care because you can blame the USA.

Why are you living in the country that is responsible?* You could go to one of the countries fighting Israel and the evil USA. You are choosing to be here.

* (Assuming you are using ‘America’ to mean the USA, which is something we should all stop doing.)

[-] 3abas@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You continue to ignore that what I’m saying is right: you only care because you can blame the USA.

That's a baseless assertion, why would I entertain it.

You are choosing to be here.

Right. See, if you're actually curious to talk to Palestinians, we can clear up these idiotic talking points you keep repeating brainlessly. Let's try. This story is very familiar with many Palestinian Americans, but this is mine.

No, I didn't choose to come here. My parents did. You're right, they could have chosen to stay in a refugee camp and became mujahedeen, but they were born right around the Nakba and they only know Palestine under occupation. They were not very well educated, they learned their trades through apprenticeship and UNRWA schools.

They left Palestine for Jordan because of economic chokehold Israel has on Palestinian, they had no choice. They them immigrated to the US again for economic reasons. They were not very political, they looked at Arafat the same way you seem to look at Democrats: genuine fighters for the cause and just waiting to bounce back. They didn't know what we know now, that he sold Palestine for personal comfort.

I was an older teenager when I immigrated with my family, again not by choice. As a Palestinian/Jordanian I knew of the struggle, but I knew the Jordanian propaganda version: (then) king Hussein is the protector of the holy sites, he saved the West Bank by annexing it, and was working hard for a two state solution. We (most Palestinian expats) accepted the two state solution.

We lacked the class consciousness and historical readings to understand that the two-state solution was always a distraction while Israel conspires with Jordan and Egypt to slowly eliminate all of Palestine. Look at the map of Palestinian territories today.

So in short, we didn't know. We didn't know that the biggest misstep Arafat made was to recognize Israel, we didn't know that America's interests are entirely aligned with erasing Palestine, we didn't know the Democrats position of support for a two state solution was fake.

We bought everything the Democrats said about human rights and morals, we celebrated Obama, we voted for Biden and the first time and worked SO FUCKING HARD to convince everyone we know to vote for Biden because democracy depends on it... We elected our Hitler.

We're awake now. We've seen enough shredded babies, enough IOF soldiers publishing their own gleeful war crimes, and we watched the Democrats blame the babies for being human shields while our tax dollars funded Biden's unwavering support for the genocide. The illusion was destroyed, the propaganda became obvious, they'll use Palestinians or African Americans or LGBTQ Americans and they'll give those communities small advantages while preserving a system that's designed to exploit all of us for the benefit of the ruling class.

The issue is not America, the issue is capitalism. Capitalism is the root cause of all of the above. Hard to communicate that to an audience that lacks class consciousness in a thread specifically about US domestic politics, so I'm attempting to just put questions in peoples' heads so maybe they'll start asking more questions that should lead to the same conclusion: the Democrats are not your friends.

If you came to learn the party you supported would take an exception for ALL of the positions you supported them for when it comes to Palestine, why wouldn't you ask questions?

People genuinely argue that Trump is worse for Palestine, but so far he's been mostly talk. We've seen the worst of the failing genocide under Biden and he showed no signs of remorse. Trump is worse for the US.

Both parties want to take us right and turn us into wage slaves though.

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