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[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I follow Erin in the Morning, and I totally agree things aren't looking good. Death camps aren't impossible.

But you don't have support for this statement right?

Why do you think some states have made sex crimes against children a capital offense? They call trans people groomers and predators. This is literally the intended effect.

Let me be clear: I'm completely onboard with you. We probably have similar opinions. I just wanted to see the source for this claim. (That is, the claim that there exists a state which introduced a capital offense that could plausibly be used to target LGBTQ people.)

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Perhaps I should clarify “intended effect” as it being a thin veil. They can claim they are doing this to protect children from all predators, while simultaneously repeating the groomers line over and over again.

In my opinion, it seems a little too coincidental that they pass this law in a state that has a very hostile anti-LGBTQ+ stance, while also attempting to portray us as child predators.

It’s possible that I am drawing conclusions incorrectly, but I sincerely doubt it.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I mean, I agree it's suspect. It's probably the most anti-LGBT state right now, and they've been passing anti-trans laws, such as the drag ban you mentioned -- it all lines up. The only thing missing here is that I don't actually see how this particular law would actually be used to target LGBT people. I have a high prior that this is intended to be anti-LGBT, it's just I don't see how it actually could be. I would change my mind if I saw a plausible explanation of how it could be used to target LGBT people.

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Think of it less as how this specific law will be used to target LGBTQ+ people directly, but as a stepping stone to push for more laws that expand the reach of it to eventually include LGBTQ+ people.

Some may argue that this is quite the leap, but there have been 598 pieces of legislation that have been proposed in 2025 alone, with (luckily) only 66 that have passed, that target LGBTQ+ people.

I am leery when it comes to “protect the children” legislation these days. There always seems to be an ulterior motive behind them.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Protect the children is basically always cover for something sinister. If there were easy gains to be made protecting children without sacrificing some critical personal liberties like privacy, I think those gains would have already been made.

Anyway I agree with you that everything is really bad, especially for queer people who are now a scapegoat. Or, just a target of hate with no particular scape in mind, I guess. But it's rather detrimental to make stuff up (i.e. about this specific law) to make things look worse than they are. You have already shown you have dozens of actual established facts with the links you've posted, that show things are really bad and getting worse. If you want to speculate that the death penalty is coming, that's fine, just please be clear that it's an inference, not present-day reality.

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the case of capital punishment, I don’t think the intent is for them to actually use the death penalty on us, but to use it as a scare tactic to push us closer to full erasure from public life. To say “look what we could possibly do to you” sort of thing.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Possible, but they'll probably have to actually try somebody for a capital offense before people are legitimately scared of capital punishment.