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There are a lot of news articles about "back to the office", but they recirculate the same bad ideas. Let's provide some new ideas for the media to circulate. It may also have the effect of making the office less terrible.

I would like my work computer to do Windows updates lightning quick in the office. It currently takes weeks, in or out of the office. Stopping in for a day makes no difference, so there is no point. Now, if there was a point, I would go in.

What would get you in the office?

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[–] CheshireSnake@iusearchlinux.fyi 191 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Honestly, a much much higher salary. There are lots of things I'm going to have to deal with if I were to go back to the office; namely heavy traffic, transportation expenses, added stress, clothes (I mean, I'd have to use office-appropriate clothes whereas nowadays I have to be presentable only when I have meetings), food, waking up and preparing earlier than usual (sometimes up to 3 hours earlier!) and getting home late which gives me less free time, etc.

They're going to have to offer a really lucrative salary for me to even consider returning to the office.

[–] dragnucs@lemmy.ml 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A higher salary would be of help to cover additional expeses related to coming to the office.

However, we also need a nice office to come to that needs to be as comfy as the one home.

[–] CheshireSnake@iusearchlinux.fyi 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know what? I never even thought about that. I agree 100%. That's gonna be a tall order for companies, though. I mean, different people probably have different requirements to be comfortable.

[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's why the whole open office and/or cubicle farm office needs to die. Yes, it will take more investment, but go back to everyone actually having their own small office that they can make their own and make comfortable. This isn't hard.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not to disagree with your sentiment, but the economics of space and construction costs would be a hard sell here. Plus, many managers don't think employees deserve comfort and privacy thus the push to return to the office.

[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Oh, I agree entirely. I didn't mean to insinuate that what I was suggesting was reasonable and/or something they would choose to invest in. Just sharting out ideas over here. Cheers.

[–] hightrix@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Yep. This is the answer.

And by much higher, I mean on the order of 100% raise as in double my current salary. Even then it’s be a hard decision.

I currently have a pretty nice salary as a senior engineer. I make waaaay more than the average and I work remotely. But even then... I still wonder what it'll take. Because right now, there are positions that double/triples that AND is remote.

Like a job that's 200k remote versus 250k in-office? Pretty easy to pick.

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Some quick maths suggest that the average citizen in Western countries spends an hour commuting a day. Which is 260 hours a year for a 5 day a week job, or about a month's worth of 8 hour days.

So, in addition to all that other pointless crap you mentioned, add on enough salary to bring you one month closer to retirement every year.

[–] Matt_Shatt@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Adding onto this, the ability to choose to not come in and/or come and go as needed. In 5 years I haven’t had my kids in day care and it’s important for me to be able to take them to school and pick them up.