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The sorry state of streaming residuals shows why SAG and the WGA are striking.

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[–] downpunxx@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

yes, they sure did, but not enough, because at the time they accepted their last labor agreement, they were being paid when the studios and producers were selling their work on in other distribution avenues covered by that agreement, and now they studios are selling them on in other avenues of distribution which weren't covered by that agreement, and aren't compensating them for it.

It's really not that difficult of a concept. It's all in the employment agreement you work under.

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I can get behind fair wages, but I don’t understand residuals. You were paid to do a job, but you also expect a cut of whatever future revenue it might achieve?

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Residuals are quite common outside of Hollywood. Just look at the deal Nike made to steal Jordan away from ADIDAS.

[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

You were paid to do a job, but you also expect a cut of whatever future revenue it might achieve?

If it's in the contract then yes.

If you're wondering why it's in the contract, this is very common in lots of different business types.

Up front, there may not be a desire to make a huge investment. What if isn't a success? So you tell whoever is making , "hey, we'll pay you measely dollars now to make it, and pay you percent of money that comes in for it down the road." This way you can invest a smaller amount up front ensuring the thing gets made, but everyone involved gets a cut based on the future success.

Since the success/amount made isn't determined in a one-time deal, you pay out the shares of the success over time: aka residuals.

[–] downpunxx@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

If you don't understand residuals, like owning stocks, which continue to pay out on future worth through dividends, when their values go up, I'd suggest you pick up a book.

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

I mean why not? If your labour helped create the thing, and it's still generating value, why not receive a share of the value? Especially when higher up execs who might not have even worked on it at all are making bank from it.

[–] Shanedino@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Sounds like there just needs to be a part of the agreement that states that any new future avenue pay x amount or renegotiate. Doesn't seem that hard.

[–] Hidsonius@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

Hence the strike I guess

[–] dmonzel@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Hence the strike.

[–] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well hell! What's the strike all about when this person figured it all out?

What's that, you say? Greedy capitalists are greedy?

Have you thought about ther needs? What if they need a new yacht or private jet? They only made a hundreds of millions of dollars last year. Only tens of thousands of dollars a day. How are they supposed to live in that salary?

[–] downpunxx@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

It sure doesn't. It's not difficult, only expensive, and expenses studio executives would rather stay in their own pockets, forever, which is why they're striking.