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California vice-mayor under fire after allegedly urging gangs to ‘organize’ over Ice
(www.theguardian.com)
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Oh man, the parallels with history here are strong...
Back in the day companies would use government to crack down on things like union strikes. So the unions started working with the Mafia for protection.
This didn't work out well for the companies (executives getting carried off, tortured, and executed... That sort of stuff) so the government came up with a compromise: Strong labor laws.
Now we have the government itself violating it's own laws (Bill of Rights), kidnapping harmless people, sending them to faraway prisons to become slaves. Hooking up with organized crime seems like a logical path 🤷
...as in: WTF did you think was going to happen‽
The best deal leaders could ask for is a strong social contract. They don't have to look over their shoulders we don't have to look over ours.
Also the ability to safely leave power. Jimmy Carter got to spend his retirement building houses for charity, Saddam Huissen got to spend his in hiding, Ghaddafi got to spend it being tortured awaiting execution by a mob of his citizens, and Hitler's retirement was spent absolutely ruining a bunker toilet while going through withdrawal. I'd much rather rule with limits then step away safely.
Yea, there is no way Trump steps away clean from this. If he leaves office voluntarily there will be legal attacks on him until the day he dies.
Hound him until the day he dies. Investigate EVERYTHING, leave no stone unturned, and charge him with every single count he ever violated. Then stack the sentences on top of each other. Hopefully, it's only about 18 months for each sentence, so that he has to switch prisons every year or two, so he can never get settled in. Unless they just want to toss him in the deepest dungeon in the new 30,000 bed facility he's building in Guantanamo right now. Let him be housed in his own prison.
This is the way.
That's why Elon has access to everything about everyone. So any and all that would do such things can be found immediately and all access to life can be cut off by those loyal to Trump. If that doesn't work, he can send the Proud Boys or some other fascist gang to your door.
Those who don't read history are doomed to repeat it.
Read? Like subtitles?
It was more like the mafia realized that if they could take over the labor unions, they could use them to bully and extort money from unionized businesses by threatening labor actions like strikes. And they knew that unions would have a hard time turning down muscle, so they would make union leaders “an offer they couldn’t refuse”. Also the mafia was way more likely to torture a union boss who realized it was a deal with the devil than use violence against a wealthy business owner.
One of the major uses for unions was to give mobsters a steady paycheck. Every Union working on a big civil construction project would inflate their budgets by a few extra men, and those jobs would go to mobsters.
There were two types of jobs. In the first type, the guy had to show up to the job site, but he didn't have to work. Union guys from the old days can tell you about the 3 or 4 guys who did nothing but play cards all day. These jobs went to the lower level workers, often younger, just so they would have a "normal" looking life, and a regular paycheck.
The second type were "ghost" jobs, where the workers never even showed up. These went to the higher level guys, who might hold multiple ghost jobs simultaneously.
Then they would also steer contracts to mobbed-up suppliers, with inferior products, shorted orders, bribes, etc.