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[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

Does someone in the room with Trump understand that California provides more federal taxes than they receive? A high-speed rail line would almost certainly pay for itself ten times over.

[-] ExFed@programming.dev 33 points 1 year ago

Let's just admit the answer to the question "does he associate with people who can do math?" is a resounding "no."

[-] Taco2112@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Doesn’t matter unfortunately, oil companies have the most influence with the people in the room and oil companies make more money on cars. If they make functional public transport, it means less people will use cars as their regular mode of transportation.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 16 points 1 year ago

Oil companies literally killed electric trolleys wayyyyyyyyyyyy back in the day. We could have had electrified transportation decades and decades ago but as usual greedy pieces of shit with WAYYYYYY too much power prevent progress...

[-] rImITywR@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Oil companies literally killed electric trolleys wayyyyyyyyyyyy back in the day.

In most cities, this happens around the 1950s. So not that long ago, if you think about it.

[-] JackDark@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

That was 70 years ago. The gap between now and the 1950s is larger than the gap between the first successful implementation of electric street cars and the 1950s.

[-] rImITywR@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The first public electric tramway used for permanent service was the Gross-Lichterfelde tramway in Lichterfelde near Berlin in Germany, which opened in 1881.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tram

So if your city shut down its streetcars in 1951, like mine did, then what you said is true. If you city had streetcars in 1953 or beyond, its not. Not to be too pedantic about it.

My point is that is less than 1 human lifespan. There are people that rode the streetcars in my city when they were kids that still live here. Its not ancient history, its living memory.

[-] JackDark@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I was going off the first large scale successful implementation of electric streetcars, not the first streetcar.

Frank Sprague installed a complete system of electric streetcars in Richmond, Virginia, in 1888. This was the first large-scale and successful use of electricity to run a city's entire system of streetcars.

https://www.thoughtco.com/history-of-streetcars-cable-cars-4075558

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Judge Doom was an historical caricature

[-] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Withhold the taxes and use it directly on the project. Why give the federal government the money so they can decide when to hand it back to you, or if they cancel it entirely

[-] NateNate60@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

There is no easy way to withhold the taxes because the State of California never touches the money. Most of the federal tax revenue from California is remitted directly to the Internal Revenue Service by individual taxpayers.

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