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Agreed.
No. There were two distinct votes at play here.
The first vote, for which she voted nay, was to amend the bill, removing the sending of weapons to Israel.
The last vote, for which she voted nay, was to pass the bill itself.
At issue here is the first vote only.
This yearly military budget bill always gets passed, without exception, which AOC knows. She knew that, in the end, the bill would get passed despite her nay vote. That being the case, why did she vote against removing military aid to Israel?
we're at a point where sadly even when you carefully explain it, with step by step instructions on why her vote was problematic, like you did right here, they either still act lost or still find ways to defend her vote.
You aren't making your case here.
It wouldn't have mattered how she voted on this bill to anyone that thinks she isn't far enough left, or left in the correct way, because that amendment wouldn't have eliminated all Israel weapons from the bill. As you know. Voted to stop sending some weapons to Israel? That's not enough, therefore she supports genocide. Didn't vote to stop sending some weapons to Israel? She supports genocide. It's 'heads I win, tails you lose'.
Okay, she also knew that the amendment wouldn't get passed, so there's no harm in voting against it, right? You're applying two different standards of logic here. If you look at it through the lens of, "AOC wants to eliminate all military funding to Israel", then the votes are ideologically consistent; the first fails to meet the goal, so gets voted down, the second vote--the overall military appropriation--funds Israel, and so also gets voted down.
You're setting up an unfalsifiable argument, where there's no condition that would lead you to believe that she's opposed to the genocide in Palestine.
All she had to do was what Al Green (D), Marjorie Taylor Greene (R), Summer Lee (D), Thomas Massie (R), Ilhan Omar (D), and, Rashida Tlaib (D) did: Vote yes on the amendment and no on the bill.
...And you expect me to believe that M-L wouldn't still be saying that she voted for an amendment to continue funding the Israeli military? That's simply not believable when she already voted against the whole bill.
AOC says she supports sending weapons to Israel. You don't have pretend otherwise.
https://lemmy.ml/post/33383345
Can you tell me which sentence in that statement clearly says, "I support sending weapons to Israel"? Or are you making a lot of inferences based on you a priori beliefs?
You're not proving your point.
Hope that helps.
Here
...And so it's not enough that she voted against the appropriations bill that would have entirely funded the Israel war machine, she also needed to vote for the amendment to the bill that would have cut 'offensive weapons' in a bill that she was going to vote against...? source for the bill, source for vote record
She wanted the Israeli weapons on the bill to pass she said that.