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Yeah, I like have a soft spot for her because she helped show me that there was actually a left beyond voting for labour every now and again, and like she was the only trans rep young me really had, but like her politics are cringe af -
is way cooler imo
contra's godawful takes on NB people / gender in general + her tendency to triple down when criticized really soured me on her content. it took all the fun out of the theater for me.
Yeah, I think I could stand her if she would just admit that she was wrong for once, about any of it
what did she say about nonbinary people? :(
Nothing to my knowledge, she has a few videos defending nonbinary identities and rejecting people insisting it's one or the other. I have no idea where the takes in this comment section are even coming from
I found this tweet but i think it mostly comes across as careless https://64.media.tumblr.com/69e1dcbe881d097b258405665d18fd4d/tumblr_inline_pfxayiMvTX1rxfx0d_1280.jpg
PT makes good videos, but she is closer to contra than can be coincidental. I mean, what are the odds of two trans women making leftist (at least at one point) political video essays in an overly theatrical style with old english letters as pen names.
Yeah they're friends and they used to help each other with the video production, I'm just saying that Abbie has wayyyy better politics than contra does (and her videos are better to - also she's a fellow trans person enduring the hellscape that is TERF island with me so that endears me to her)
They used to be freinds. They had some sort of falling out though. Although her politics are better than contra's
In other words - PT is Contrapoints, but it's good instead of whiny liberal asslicking.
This is just pitting trans people against each other for no reason. PT were less theatrical before they came out, but acting like a theater kid in your video editing choices isn't exclusive to any one YouTuber.
Could you please correct the misgendering in your post? PT uses she/her pronouns exclusively.
I was just comparing them since they're decently close friends, they're in the same niche and go for basically the same audience, and do things in the same style, it seemed like a pretty natural comparison to me
I understand, your comparison was fine. The person responding to you makes it sound like PT is ripping off Contrapoints though. Comparing their ideas, their production value and choices is fine, they do exist in a similar space, but there's nothing wrong with PT existing in a similar space. Straight white men are allowed to coexist with identical videos on YouTube. But someone in a marginalized group? Their channels are constantly pitted against each other.
Vaush/Xanderhal, Asmongold/Penguinz0 are all allowed to be successful even though they pretty much make the same videos and stream clips on the same topics. But for some reason creators from marginalized groups can't have similar tastes and ideas.
I'm pretty sure the person you were responding to is also trans like me and presumably you
I think it's a joke - it's an absurd comparison so I don't think it's meant to be taken seriously
If I had a nickel for every time it happened I've have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
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