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It is amazing how the focus shift from blaming gas and oil industries and focus on food. Blaming individuals, with a sub message ( you are the reason for climate change because you buy animal products) while big corporations and their investors, and ceos continue enjoying their massive wealth.
Disclaimer, didn't read the article but the title it triggering..
Why we can't ignore the meat industry's climate impact
We also need to address fossil fuels, but the meat industry is large enough in emissions to make us miss climate targets even if fossil fuels were eliminated today
(emphasis mine)
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aba7357
There's not really a way around consumption being reduced. It's going to be hard to implement any systematic solutions to reducing meat consumption if people don't take that step themselves too
The environment is more than just greenhouse gases emissions
But I should also point out that there's more to the environment than just climate change which is why I would suggest at least skimming things before commenting for the future. The article and even its title ("across a range of environmental measures") include much more than just greenhouse gas emissions.
Other studies and environmental metrics
Why best case production of animal products still come out worse than worse-case production of plants
https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/14/8/1614/htm
Deforestation
https://wwf.panda.org/discover/knowledge_hub/where_we_work/amazon/amazon_threats/unsustainable_cattle_ranching/
Draining desert's water
https://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1064&context=wffdocs
Biodiversity loss
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/aug/16/most-damaging-farm-products-organic-pasture-fed-beef-lamb
Increased synthetic fertilizer usage for animal products
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0921344922006528
Etc.
There's a number more but this comment is already getting too long
One can fight oil and gas on a plant based diet just as well.
This is a simple choice each individual makes three times a day, what to eat.
Doesn't need political approval, doesn't need majorities, no investment and no infrastructure required. If you understand how serious the climate crisis is, eating plant based should come as a no brainer. And if you understand, you won't stop there.
It's still a systemic crisis which cannot be solved on the individual level, true. In an ideal world, plant based diets would become the norm through various means. But why wait for that if you understand it's the right thing to do?
industry serves people's demands. it's one way to influence agri industry.
There is simply too much in life to care about. And we all care about different things. And nobody can care about all the things that we should care about. Even more so when caring about a cause involves making sacrifices in order to support that cause.
So without systemic change, you will never convince a critical mass of individuals to care enough to sacrifice enough to make a meaningful difference.
So the focus on the individual as the unit of change is as good as saying "do nothing".
Well,.I personally like to bring some compassion into my life. it's not possible in all parts of life at all times.
But honestly, it just seems like a no brainer to not eat meat. Such a cruel and pointless pleasure. The only real argument is that it tastes good. Taste being such an ephemeral experience.
You're upset because you don't want to accept your piece of the pie when it comes to responsibility. This is childish.
The title should trigger you, but not too be upset with billionaires; although certainly you can be upset with them for their much larger pieces of the pie.
calling people childish doesn't change whether they're right.
Rather than looking it as shifting the blame, could you not see it as another way in which you can make an impact?
We are where we are and we collectively need to reduce our environmental impact. Being conscious of what you eat is one way to do that, if you want to help.